05-17-2022, 12:34 AM | #31 |
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Re: What's happening with Prime Directive
Of course, every ST fan has a different opinion of what is the true and perfect ST show/episode/character/whatever, and which franchise represents the golden age.
People who can't get into a particular ST show aren't wrong, tastes just differ. Any given ST franchise is going to tell different stories in different ways. That's not inherently good or bad as long as everyone involved tries to stay consistent with canon and respects the basic premise of "humanity gets its **** together and heads to the stars." |
05-17-2022, 12:58 AM | #32 | |
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But that's beside the point. The point that I was contesting was the idea that Starfleet universe is somehow inferior to other Star Trek RPGs because it doesn't embrace the, in my phrasing, Renaissance Trek viewpoint. In short, I agree with your most recent statement that different fans will have different favorites, and that you shouldn't look down on another fan's favorite because it isn't yours. Prime Directive wasn't written with Renaissance Trek in mind; but that doesn't mean that it's a failure as a Star Trek esque RPG. |
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05-17-2022, 03:22 AM | #33 | |
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Paramount would have litigated them into oblivion. I suspect they are not real thrilled with the only open ended permanent license to a Trek property on the books. IIRC the license derives through the TOS Technical Manual and it relatively proscribed as to what they can touch. If they step over the line, well Paramount is not known for being reluctant to litigate.
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05-17-2022, 03:47 AM | #35 | |
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ADB is a small gaming company that has hung in for 40+ years (through a couple of permutations IIRC), they never had a dump truck of money to give Paramount for rights to post 80's Trek. Paramount at any time could have (or could now) cut a deal for a small piece of what would likely be a pretty small pie. Just for the fans if nothing else. But...(censored due to poverty)...rather milk the cash cow.
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You are looking at the wrong part of the episode. Here is the relevant part: MCCOY: Odd that these people should worship the sun. SPOCK: Why, Doctor? MCCOY: Because, my dear Mister Spock, it is illogical. Rome had no sun worshipers. Why should they parallel Rome in every way except one? Quote:
Of course with all the technology around in either Marvel or DC you have a Reed Richards is Useless situation. Silver Age Superman was even worse as Krypton was likely TL9^ (they had a space program which they outlawed when Jax-Ur nuked Wegthor killing 500 people) and Superman either had or made some of this Kryptonian tech. Quote:
KIRK: I knew him very well. He was my instructor at the Academy. SPOCK: What impressed me most was his treatment of Earth history as causes and motivations rather than dates and events. Also the whole thing with City on the Edge of Forever had happen so Spock had a scan of history regarding just how efficient Nazi Germany really was. That epidoes also established that their WWII had to be radically different from ours because the rocket technology to make ICBMs didn't really become viable until the late 1950s And given the thumbscrews the US was putting on Japan was with one of the Axis power would have happened in the 1940s even with Edith Keeler's peace efforts.
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05-17-2022, 07:57 AM | #37 | |
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More seriously, that's another case of the writer's ignorance, just like Victor Stone's million decibel white noise generator, or the murderer in one of the Wimsey novels who gained immunity to arsenic by dosing himself with it repeatedly. I don't feel the need to come up with Watsonian explanations for such things.
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05-17-2022, 05:51 PM | #38 |
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As far Star Trek as an RPG, Modiphius is producing some excellent items, with physical and electronic versions.
I was a long time player of the FASA version. Modiphius is taking its place. |
05-17-2022, 08:38 PM | #39 |
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Before jumping on this one with both feet, check out Modiphius' 2D20 system. We did one session during their open Star Trek playtest and it worked better than I expected but soem of that was because I had very low expectations after reading the 40 pages of rules for rolling the dice.
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05-18-2022, 01:12 AM | #40 | |
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Remember we have realities in the Infinite Worlds setting where physics is very different allowing Mars and Venus to support complex and intelligent life. Heck, Reich-5 likely come closes to being a Myth parallel (The Man in the High Castle)
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