11-13-2020, 06:23 AM | #1 |
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Minimum ST for Shields
Has anyone played around with requiring minimum ST for shields? I'm thinking 8, 10, 12 for Small, Medium, and Large. My concern is mainly shield bash, where the absence of Minimum ST disturbs me. It means there's also no Maximum ST. It's untidy. There may also be issues with realism.
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11-13-2020, 07:09 AM | #2 |
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Re: Minimum ST for Shields
GURPS doesn't really do scaling for weapons and armor in the Basic Set. Low Tech covers it in more detail but really, the defense bonus for a shield should be relative to the size of the user. A 1' diameter shield is a better defense for a hobbit than a titan.
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11-13-2020, 08:00 AM | #3 |
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Re: Minimum ST for Shields
Brass Knuckles and other weapons used to strike with unarmed skill also doesn't have minimum ST, so I suppose shield bashes are just like those attacks but with a shield and Shield skill instead.
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11-13-2020, 08:22 AM | #4 | |
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Re: Minimum ST for Shields
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Take that, Captain America! (assuming he's got a medium shield and more than ST 30) |
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11-13-2020, 10:06 AM | #5 | |
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Re: Minimum ST for Shields
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Getting rid of Maximum ST is a better idea. It's nothing but a back door limitation on character ST.
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11-13-2020, 10:39 AM | #6 |
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Re: Minimum ST for Shields
I haven't thought about this in detail. But for defense, it seems to me that generally the bigger the shield the less you have to move it. And the bigger the shield, assuming the same materials, the more massive it is, which can help a shield bash.
I would tend to think the differences would more or less balance out. But again, that's off the top of my head.
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11-14-2020, 08:59 PM | #7 | |
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Re: Minimum ST for Shields
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1) I'd prefer some programmatic result, calculating Min ST directly from shield weight, so we'd instantly have a Min ST for any possible variant. (Get into the Tech books, and we already have shields of all different shapes, sizes, materials, and weights.) 2) Using a shield as a buckler (holding and wielding it like a weapon) should require higher ST than strapping it to the arm (keeping it close to the body).
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11-14-2020, 10:43 PM | #8 |
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Re: Minimum ST for Shields
I played with this idea on my blog.
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11-14-2020, 11:30 PM | #9 | |
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Re: Minimum ST for Shields
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So to the OP: Head to CR's linked blog page for his suggested Min ST stats and more. (And if you work that into something of your own, I'm sure plenty of people on the forum here would like to hear about it.)
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