11-27-2013, 10:24 AM | #11 |
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Re: [D&D Adaptation Question] Swallow Whole rules and mechanics?
It's a special attack, not a feat. In any case, I believe it's a special case of Binding in GURPS; I don't have Powers at hand, but IIRC it's mentioned in there.
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11-27-2013, 11:05 AM | #12 |
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Re: [D&D Adaptation Question] Swallow Whole rules and mechanics?
That's odd; usually I see it as Constriction Attack with the Engulfing enhancement. Binding seems sort of an odd choice since its usually binds the target to an external location. Constriction Attack's writeup in Powers mentions its fitting for creatures which envelop prey, so that seems better; with Engulfing it is hands-free.
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11-27-2013, 11:15 AM | #13 | |
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11-27-2013, 11:32 AM | #14 |
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Re: [D&D Adaptation Question] Swallow Whole rules and mechanics?
Can confirm, it takes at least two separate meals.
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11-27-2013, 12:04 PM | #15 | |
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11-27-2013, 12:11 PM | #16 |
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Re: [D&D Adaptation Question] Swallow Whole rules and mechanics?
The main reason it appears in the rules is so it's possible to slice your way out without chewing through the several hundred hit points of a purple worm. I don't believe it was possible in AD&D.
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11-27-2013, 12:12 PM | #17 |
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For instance, a Tarrasque has 858 HP, but you only need to deal 50 damage to escape its stomach. Considering that its relatively easy at those levels to get protection against the relatively minor crushing and acid damage, the much lower AC of the Tarrasque from the inside, and not having to deal with its attacks and its special protective scales, one strategy is to simply let yourself get eaten and kill it easily from the inside. As another example, a T-Rex listed on the d20srd has 180 HP, and only 25 damage is needed from the inside to escape. |
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12-02-2013, 08:48 AM | #19 |
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Re: [D&D Adaptation Question] Swallow Whole rules and mechanics?
Minor update.
Been experimenting a bit trying to figure out how to model how much bigger something has to be to swallow something else (instead of going right along with the D&D size categories). I'm hovering around a difference of around 6 to 8 SMs, before getting into modifiers like Born Biter, Stretching, etc. Though now I've had some more ideas; 1) At what point is something so big that it doesn't make sense to charge it for Constricting Attack (Engulfing)? At about 6-8 or so SMs of difference, assuming that's raw size and not effective from stretching (a dragon or giant, as compared to a "small" giant toad or man-eater plant), its at the point that they could probably just grapple/bite and realistically swallow without the need for a special ability. 1.5) Maybe it might be more prudent to make a house ruled maneuver/technique off of grappling for this? 2) Depending on the size difference, how would it be modeled for an attempted swallow taking more than one turn? What modifier on Constricting Attack would fit? Also, I'm debating whether cutting oneself out would require enough damage to qualify as a Major Wound, or just a particular fraction of HP. |
12-02-2013, 09:57 AM | #20 |
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Re: [D&D Adaptation Question] Swallow Whole rules and mechanics?
SM-6 would be a large apple or banana, doubt a human being could fit one in the mouth.
SM-7 is a small to standard apple/banana, It may fit in the mouth, but It will be very hard and painful. SM-8 is what I lean towards, the size of a lime, most people could fit one in the mouth.
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