[Powers] Leech with Area Effect?

[NineDaysDead]

Originally Posted by cccwebs

B) Leech 1 (Area Effect 1, +50%; Emanation, -20%; Malediction 1, +100%; Ranged, +40%) [68]

Emanation -20%
You may only take this limitation in conjunction with Area Effect (p. 102). It means the effect has no range or Accuracy, but radiates from your body (without affecting you, if the effect is a bad one). This is incompatible with Melee Attack and ranged attack modifiers.

This would seem to suggest you can't take Malediction and Ranged with Emanation.

[NineDaysDead]

Originally Posted by Jerander

Can't be that simple. Because then there's no resistance to the ability. Walk into range and immediately lose HP/sec...

There's no resistance roll, but there's still a dodge roll:

Originally Posted by Powers page 165, Emanations

Aftermath: Everyone in the area is “hit” automatically, although they may try to dive for cover (see Dodge and Drop, p. B377).

[Jerander]

Originally Posted by NineDaysDead

There's no resistance roll, but there's still a dodge roll:

Okay.

So, how would you go about creating a Leech that attacked everyone in an area centered on the Leecher and was resisted by a quick contest of Will vs. Will.

[NineDaysDead]

Originally Posted by Jerander

Okay.

So, how would you go about creating a Leech that attacked everyone in an area centered on the Leecher and was resisted by a quick contest of Will vs. Will.

Psionic powers page 20:

Originally Posted by Requires (Attribute) Roll

If your ability dictates you not only to make an attribute roll, but also gives the subject a chance to resist it with a Quick Contest, add an additional -10% to the value of this limitation. For example, Invisibility (Requires IQ vs. Perception Roll, -20%) would require you to win a Quick Contest of your IQ vs. the Perception of anyone who might see you.

EDIT: In this case they'd have the option of Dodge and Drop, and if that failed they'd have the option of Resisting.

Edit 2:
In terms of power:

A) Leech 1 (Malediction +200%; Long range +50%; Ranged, +40%) [98]
If you can sense their location relative to yours, you can snipe them at any distance.
vs
B) Leech 1 (Area Effect 6, +300%; Emanation, -20%; Selective Area +20%) [100]
You can selectively target anyone within 64 yards.

[cccwebs]

Originally Posted by NineDaysDead

This would seem to suggest you can't take Malediction and Ranged with Emanation.

This has been adjusted in further supplements. Apparently, TPTB decided that a combination of Ranged, Malediction, Area Effect, and Emanation (as well as Aura) has been deemed acceptable.

[NineDaysDead]

Originally Posted by cccwebs

This has been adjusted in further supplements. Apparently, TPTB decided that a combination of Ranged, Malediction, Area Effect, and Emanation (as well as Aura) has been deemed acceptable.

Could you give me an example, I've checked Powers, Supers and Psionic Powers and I can't can find what you suggest.

[roguebfl]

Originally Posted by NineDaysDead

Could you give me an example, I've checked Powers, Supers and Psionic Powers and I can't can find what you suggest.

Well there is Kromm's Aura, Area Effect, Melee, combo for 'counter strikes'

[naloth]

IIRC, the restriction that Aura requires melee and cannot have Area was lifted in Powers under Innate Attack to represent someone that has an Aura with a range much longer than touch.

Emanation is a range modifier itself that makes the effective range zero. What would it do if you don't have to radiate the area from yourself?

[Kuroshima]

Originally Posted by cccwebs

This has been adjusted in further supplements. Apparently, TPTB decided that a combination of Ranged, Malediction, Area Effect, and Emanation (as well as Aura) has been deemed acceptable.

I don't know about ranged and leech, but Malediction, Area Effect and Emanation are used in DF11 for the bard songs, and Malediction, Area Effect and Aura were used in my Auras of Power article.

Personally, I think that, for leech, you need either Ranged+Emanation, or Aura (without Melee Attack, since it's already melee)

[naloth]

Originally Posted by Kuroshima

Personally, I think that, for leech, you need either Ranged+Emanation, or Aura (without Melee Attack, since it's already melee)

I'm pretty sure it's Leech isn't intended to be an Area power. It's intended to allow you to take from one target at a time and only if you have successfully grappled or can win a quick contest (malediction) against that target. To do the damage field that also heals the user by RAW you should link and Innate Attack and Leech so that you can target one person in your area to recover from while the rest take damage as normal.

As a GM, I don't see the need to be quite this restrictive as long as you're applying normal countermeasures (DR, active defenses that seem reasonable, etc.). I don't see a problem with creating a Vampiric Field using Leech w/just Area, Emanation, and any armor penetrating modifiers you want.