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Old 02-13-2014, 02:35 AM   #1
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Default Involuntary no-benefit Leech?

So, how would you design a power like Leech that drained health (possibly permanently!) but that was involuntary and gave no benefit to the user? Kind of like what Rogue in Marvel has, only not beneficial like it is for her?
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Old 02-13-2014, 02:52 AM   #2
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Surely that's just an attack, probably with Aura, Always On, Area Effect and Malediction.

I think some on the forums suggested that Leech was very much like an Innate Attack with Absorption (from DR) to convert the damage to Healing or similar.

Edit: Yes here, not necessarily a good idea, but I think it demonstrates the principle.

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Old 02-13-2014, 02:59 AM   #3
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Surely that's just an attack, probably with Aura and Malediction.
Well, more contact agent is what I was thinking... avoid hurting anyone by avoiding touching them. So like a damaging touch attack with uncontrollable and always on? In this case, would it be disad version of always on or advantage?
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Old 02-13-2014, 03:16 AM   #4
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Well, more contact agent is what I was thinking... avoid hurting anyone by avoiding touching them. So like a damaging touch attack with uncontrollable and always on? In this case, would it be disad version of always on or advantage?
I'd say it was the -10% version of Always On (social or cosmetic) - see B110
See also Aura and the Body of Fire meta-trait (B262) which has an Always On, Aura, Burning Attack!

I don't think Uncontrollable would be appropriate though.
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Old 02-13-2014, 03:42 AM   #5
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I'd say it was the -10% version of Always On (social or cosmetic) - see B110
See also Aura and the Body of Fire meta-trait (B262) which has an Always On, Aura, Burning Attack!

I don't think Uncontrollable would be appropriate though.
Hmm yeah though I was looking through my books and thinking about what I want to do for this alien species and the problem with Leech is it's per second... I'd like for it to be more like per minute or even per hour, but it seems Takes Extra Time wouldn't work as written...

Basically, I don't want the species to have to avoid all contact, just be careful how LONG they maintain contact...

Also was looking at Steal Youth might be interesting (and it has the permanent option built in if you takes the higher value), but again a month per second is a bit extreme if it's an "always on, contact agent" type ability. Part of the reason that would be interesting is that they are unaging... so maybe they aren't REALLY unaging after all, but they sap a few months here a few months there and live forever... kind of like a succubus :O
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Old 02-13-2014, 04:13 AM   #6
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Toxic Attack 1; Melee C, Aura, Only Does 1 Point, Exposure Time (duration), Always On, Contact Agent.
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Old 02-13-2014, 04:26 AM   #7
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Hmm thanks actually I ended up thinking it would be better/easier just give them a Steal Youth leech ability with uncontrollable (sort of, it does hurt people, so it fits as destructive i think)... since they are unaging they get no benefit from it, but... :P Points for concept haha
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Old 02-13-2014, 06:08 AM   #8
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Hmm thanks actually I ended up thinking it would be better/easier just give them a Steal Youth leech ability with uncontrollable (sort of, it does hurt people, so it fits as destructive i think)... since they are unaging they get no benefit from it, but... :P Points for concept haha
Is this for a template that player characters might use? If so, then that Leech is probably going to look over-priced.
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Old 02-13-2014, 12:07 PM   #9
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Isn't that affliction with permanent?
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Isn't that affliction with permanent?
Leech with Steal Youth *is* permanent. Granted, the cheaper version lets you get your youth back if the Leech dies, but, that's just the non-Cosmic version of Permanent.
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