New Reality Seeds

[robkelk]

Originally Posted by fchase8

What do you think a Canada-dominant world like this would be named by Infinity? The Maple Leaf flag only came into being IRL in 1965 - and in a warmer world, even if Canada created its own flag, would it still be the maple leaf?

I have Canada on the mind, with its 150th anniversary - I'd like to think that at least one Infinity researcher would want to name the world 'Strange Brew'...

...

I might go with "Canuck" for the worldline designation - the term is as old as Confederation, and is not a slur.

As for the flag, I'm thinking of using this design for the worldline's flag. It's one of the three that was in final consideration, it isn't as "busy" as the other design that wasn't chosen, and it's still recognizably something Canadian without actually being a Canadian symbol from OTL. (The online collections of Library and Archives Canada tell me that, way back in 1913 when the national anthem still had a second verse, it included the words "O Canada, where pines and maples grow", so it's reasonable to assume that a maple leaf of some sort would be a Canadian symbol in any worldline with a Canada.)

[PTTG]

Here's one: Spain holds on to her New World holdings. California becomes a Spanish-speaking rival to the United States.

More broadly, changes that make Spain a global hegemon by the late 20th.

EDIT: Call 'em Quixote or Quixano.

[Astromancer]

To try for a mighty Canada, I'll recycle an older idea of mine. I start with the USA and other parts of the world, but end with a SuperCanada.

Okay, in 1945 Himmler's occultist actually summon something nasty to destroy the USA. An American, more by luck than pluck defeats it. However, to seal off further attacks, he must radically change the world, luckily he has gained the power to do so. So he takes the USA's people off to another planet in a distant solar system. The land area of the USA becomes a swallow sea rich in harvestable fish, a long sandbank keeps the oceanic currents separate.

To replace the lost American oil reserves, he changes the nature of Canada's oil shales and tar sands into equally vast areas of light sweet crude.

The USSR is mysically bound within its borders for seven cycles of Saturn and unable to project force beyond its borders accept in actual self-defense. Stalin is impotent and bottled up. Germany's people are taken along with the USA to the new planet and the land area of Germany becomes a vast shallow bay.

Without Soviet aid to bribe them, the Chinese Communists quickly dump Mao. And the nationalists win in China but mainly because of the damage Mao had already done to the Communist cause. The Kim family never go back to Korea.

The Brits, the French, and other Europeans hold onto their Empires like grim death. American anti-Imperialism (which was a major post war force even if it is completely ignored and denied) is no longer an influence of any kind.

Jump ahead to 1990. The few reports from the Americans and Germans make it clear that they are doing just fine. The rare visits back and forth make it clear that the New Deal is still going strong and the new hybrid nation is progressive and moving toward something Utopian.

Meanwhile, back on Earth, Asia hasn't yet gone through its industrial revolution. China, Korea, and japan, are all poor and backward. India is in an equally bad state. Africa and other areas are still fighting to gain their independence and "EMPIRE" is a noble and respectable value throughout Europe. France and England still vie for dominance and glory like it was 1850!

Meanwhile back in Canada (yes we're back in Canada now) The removal of the land mass of the USA has radically altered Canada's climate and given them a vastly greater area of arable land. Between natural growth and a huge immigration from Europe seeking to flee poverty and instability there, this 1990's Canada has a population of 120 millions. Not only is this Canada the breadbasket of the world, but because of the transformed Canadian oil fields, Canada replaces Saudi-Arabia as the big oil exporter on this planet.

Both France and Britain want influence in Canada. Canada has a progressive governmental tradition in this world and is pretty much Market Socialist. Neither France nor Britain had the Social Welfare state in this world and feel Canada needs to conform.

Centrum favors Britain in this world. Homeline likes Canada and also wants to move Asia in a positive direction. Homeline France wants to increase French influence at any cost. The Cabal sees a way to gain influence with a major Homeline government.

Does any of this seem good to you guys?

[robkelk]

Originally Posted by Astromancer

To try for a mighty Canada, I'll recycle an older idea of mine. I start with the USA and other parts of the world, but end with a SuperCanada.

Okay, in 1945 Himmler's occultist actually summon something nasty to destroy the USA. An American, more by luck than pluck defeats it. However, to seal off further attacks, he must radically change the world, luckily he has gained the power to do so. So he takes the USA's people off to another planet in a distant solar system. The land area of the USA becomes a swallow sea

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Does any of this seem good to you guys?

At the risk of repeating myself,

Originally Posted by robkelk

(The others sound like fun, but most of them rely on superscience or fantasy-tech, which doesn't fit my current campaign.)

[fchase8]

Originally Posted by robkelk

I might go with "Canuck" for the worldline designation - the term is as old as Confederation, and is not a slur.

As for the flag, I'm thinking of using this design for the worldline's flag. It's one of the three that was in final consideration, it isn't as "busy" as the other design that wasn't chosen, and it's still recognizably something Canadian without actually being a Canadian symbol from OTL. (The online collections of Library and Archives Canada tell me that, way back in 1913 when the national anthem still had a second verse, it included the words "O Canada, where pines and maples grow", so it's reasonable to assume that a maple leaf of some sort would be a Canadian symbol in any worldline with a Canada.)

I had always wondered if "Canuck" was a slur. I could imagine Homeline Canadian Infinity researchers naming it that.

Or maybe "Mountie", as the Canadian Mounted Police would be particularly powerful on this world. Though they'd also be infested with Centran influence.

[tshiggins]

Originally Posted by PTTG

Here's one: Spain holds on to her New World holdings. California becomes a Spanish-speaking rival to the United States.

More broadly, changes that make Spain a global hegemon by the late 20th.

EDIT: Call 'em Quixote or Quixano.

Michele Armellini came up with the core of an idea for this, in his Tsar-1 timeline:

http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread...ghlight=tsar-1

I basically stole it, for my Facets campaign. :)

[robkelk]

Originally Posted by fchase8

I had always wondered if "Canuck" was a slur. I could imagine Homeline Canadian Infinity researchers naming it that.

Or maybe "Mountie", as the Canadian Mounted Police would be particularly powerful on this world. Though they'd also be infested with Centran influence.

I'd be inclined to use "Mountie" to describe worldlines where the influential people are like Sergeant Preston of the Yukon ... or Dudley Do-Right.

[Astromancer]

Try this idea, in a ordinary parallel on Quantum 6, which happens to be an echo of Homeline in the year 1890, five swords have shown up. These are either pragmaclasts from a reality quake or out-time artifacts. These swords are Durendal which can cleave mountains, Caliburn, the Steel Cutter often mistaken for the more famous Excalibur, and able to cut through any material effortlessly, Flameberge, the Fire Cutter which magically renders its holder immune to all weapons, Joyeuse the name of which means battle joy, and can turn whole vast armies berserk and yet controllable by the one who wields the sword, and finally and most brutally the true Excalibur, the sword of light, gift of the dark goddess. Who wields Excalibur wields fate itself, and is in turn fate's pawn.

Assignment: Prevent total chaos.

Extra credit: Find out how these swords got here and why these versions.

[Astromancer]

Try this idea...

Henry VII lives until 1559, most of the last 12 years are spent ill and nearly helpless. He does see to the marriage of his daughter Elizabeth to (I'll have to look up the young man who Henry did want to marry Elizabeth) and she has her first child at the age of 19 in 1552.

Run this forward to 1705. Scotland is allied with France (again) and King Henry X must both kept the French and Spanish fleets at bay and fend off Scot's armies. Centrum likes this less constitutional England, but France seems more like a World Empire in the making.

Centrum is working both to aid economic development in the English Colonies and to alter Tokugawa Period Japan into a constitutional monarchy.

Meanwhile the Cabal is busy in India for unknown reasons.

This any fun?

[Astromancer]

Posted to another thread, but it might be playable.

The Puzzle Box skerry on Q4 (Puzzle Box 1-5) is a set of worlds with superheroes. How ever each world has highly similar superheroes with nearly identical personal names, nom de guerres, and highly similar or similarly themed powers.

PB-1 The local year is 1928 and rather Pulp/Cliffhanger in style.
PB-2 The local year is 1942 and is very Golden Age ala All-Star Squadron
PB-3 The local year is 1967 and it is very Silver Age with Super Tech Interstellar travel.
PB-4 The local year is 1980 and this world is has a Dark Occult/Vertigo mood
PB-5 The local year is 2017 and the world is very Cyberpunk.

All these worlds are in contact, the various superheroes are aware of each other and the great Quantum beyond them.

They've been contacted by the Cabal (Especially PB-4) they're seeking diplomatic links to Homeline.

Does this bring the weird?