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Old 02-28-2013, 01:27 AM   #431
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Well, yes. On the other hand, maybe they think him more useful in jump-space. It is a strange place after all.

Actually the poor fellow sounds like it was just as well he was raised in seclusion. And if he was really seeing visions I don't want to be Tempting Fate. And if he was just insane, which is likely enough, I don't want to Kick the Dog. But he was the only Patron Saint of Spacers I could find.
He sounds to me to have had temporal lobe epilepsy with complex partial seizures and Geschwind syndrome.
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He sounds to me to have had temporal lobe epilepsy with complex partial seizures and Geschwind syndrome.
He sounds to me like someone focused on holy things, and not wordly things.
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Old 02-28-2013, 07:20 AM   #433
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He sounds to me to have had temporal lobe epilepsy with complex partial seizures and Geschwind syndrome.
You must be talking of a peculiar format because epilepsy really isn't like that.
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He sounds to me like someone focused on holy things, and not wordly things.
The two are not incompatible. One of the most moving sights I saw in chuch was an autist dancing in pious joy.
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He sounds to me like someone focused on holy things, and not wordly things.
Geschwind Syndrome is a collection of characteristics sometimes found in patients who have temporal lobe epilepsy that includes rambling speech, writing a lot, diminished sexuality, hyper-religiosity, and a deep concern with morality.
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You must be talking of a peculiar format because epilepsy really isn't like that.
There is quite a wide range of different forms of seizures in epilepsy, from simple partial seizures that may be misdiagnosed as depression up to tonic-clonic seizures with loss-of-consciousness and violent convulsions. St Joseph's "contemplations" sound like simple partial seizures with a focus in the temporal lobe.
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Geschwind Syndrome is a collection of characteristics sometimes found in patients who have temporal lobe epilepsy that includes rambling speech, writing a lot, diminished sexuality, hyper-religiosity, and a deep concern with morality.
What evs. Shrinks be cray.
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Neither dragging him about, buffeting, piercing with needles, nor even burning his flesh with candles would have any effect on him ...
It seems the other Franciscans in the monastery where he lived really spared
no effort to determine the depth of his contemplation ...
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There is quite a wide range of different forms of seizures in epilepsy, from simple partial seizures that may be misdiagnosed as depression up to tonic-clonic seizures with loss-of-consciousness and violent convulsions. St Joseph's "contemplations" sound like simple partial seizures with a focus in the temporal lobe.
That may be. They don't sound like anything I have experienced or witnessed.

I have experienced epilepsy and I have seen people in what everyone believed were sacred trances. The later were neither epileptic nor insane; I suppose the best material explanation if one doesn't believe in such things generally or in a given instance is to chalk it up to emotional excitement. And of course other religions describe similar things. Delphians for instance, though they were reportedly high. I suppose as a non-medieval I have learned to hedge bets.

Be that as it may, maybe spacers do want the protection of someone who has had a peculiar life(one way or another) when they go into jump space?
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It seems the other Franciscans in the monastery where he lived really spared
no effort to determine the depth of his contemplation ...
What was the normal treatment for that at the time, anyone?
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