WW2 German G43 stats?

Azinctus · 11-23-2022, 01:02 AM

Have the stats for the G43 Ww2 German automatic rifle been printed anywhere?

G43 is too short to search the forums for...

hal · 11-23-2022, 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azinctus

Have the stats for the G43 Ww2 German automatic rifle been printed anywhere?

G43 is too short to search the forums for...

GURPS WWII Core Rulebook pg 92 under rifles.

EskrimadorNC · 11-23-2022, 01:20 PM

I think we can reverse engineer the 4E stats without too much trouble.

The Gewehr 43 uses the same 7.92x57mm Mauser cartridge as the FG-42 and the Karabiner 98K, both in High Tech. In both cases, the damage is 7d pi.

The Gewehr 43 has a 21.5" barrel, which is in between the FG-42's (19.7") and the Karabiner 98K's (23.62"), so 7d pi sounds about right.

Both the FG-42 and the 98K are ACC 5, so we should use that for G43.

Range is very similar between the two, so we can use the FG-42's range to play it safe (1,000'/4,200').

Weight according to Wikipedia is 9.7 lbs. We don't know the weight of a 10-round box magazine, but a 20-rounder for the FG-42 clocks in at 1.8 lbs. A reasonable amount of weight is the magazine itself, so lets just use .65, so we round up to 1.1lbs for a loaded mag.

The G43 is semi-auto, so that puts the ROF at 3.

A 10-round magazine gives us 10+1(3) for Shots.

We clock in at about the same weight as the 98k, so let's call it ST 10.

-5 looks about right for Bulk.

It's a semi-auto gas-blowback, so RCL 3 like the FG-42.

So that gives us the following

Gewehr 43, 7.92x57mm Mauser
Damage: 7d pi
Acc: 5
Range: 1,000/4,200
Weight: 9.7/1.1
ROF: 3
Shots: 10+1(3)
ST: 10
Bulk: -5
Rcl: 3

Azinctus · 11-23-2022, 01:59 PM

Thank you both!

Pursuivant · 11-23-2022, 10:59 PM

There are GURPS 4E conversions of GURPS 3E WW2 weapons here:

https://wiki.rpg.net/index.php/GURPS_Weapons

Converted stats for the G.43 here:

https://wiki.rpg.net/index.php/GURPS_Weapons_16

hal · 11-24-2022, 10:51 AM

If this site is to be believed:

https://www.ww2-weapons.com/rifle-43/

The weight of the rifle was 4.27 kg and 4.4 loaded. I make it .23 kg for the box magazine with 10 rounds or 1/2 lb give or take.

Willy · 11-25-2022, 10:36 AM

Just to be curious, there was a scoped version G43 ZF, what would be the stats for this weapon?

Because all G 43 was prepared for mounting a scope, but wasn´t as liked by the troops as a sniper weapon, because the fire rate of the G 43 was higher than the Kar 98 ZF but lacked in precision. Snipers didn´t like it much. The Scope ZF 43 / 43/1 both also called ZF 4 was a 4x scope which offered 50m steps between 100 and 800m.

johndallman · 11-25-2022, 01:10 PM

A x4 scope gives +2 Acc, making the rifle Acc 5+2. Add the weight of the scope, and you're done.

maximara · 11-25-2022, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pursuivant

There are GURPS 4E conversions of GURPS 3E WW2 weapons here:

https://wiki.rpg.net/index.php/GURPS_Weapons

Converted stats for the G.43 here:

https://wiki.rpg.net/index.php/GURPS_Weapons_16

The GURPS wiki has a reformatted version: Weapons of World War II (1925 to 1945)

Pursuivant · 11-26-2022, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maximara

The GURPS wiki has a reformatted version

Would you believe that I searched GURPS wiki first and somehow didn't find that page?

11-23-2022, 01:02 AM	#1
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11-23-2022, 01:20 PM	#3
EskrimadorNC Join Date: Jul 2015	Re: WW2 German G43 stats? I think we can reverse engineer the 4E stats without too much trouble. The Gewehr 43 uses the same 7.92x57mm Mauser cartridge as the FG-42 and the Karabiner 98K, both in High Tech. In both cases, the damage is 7d pi. The Gewehr 43 has a 21.5" barrel, which is in between the FG-42's (19.7") and the Karabiner 98K's (23.62"), so 7d pi sounds about right. Both the FG-42 and the 98K are ACC 5, so we should use that for G43. Range is very similar between the two, so we can use the FG-42's range to play it safe (1,000'/4,200'). Weight according to Wikipedia is 9.7 lbs. We don't know the weight of a 10-round box magazine, but a 20-rounder for the FG-42 clocks in at 1.8 lbs. A reasonable amount of weight is the magazine itself, so lets just use .65, so we round up to 1.1lbs for a loaded mag. The G43 is semi-auto, so that puts the ROF at 3. A 10-round magazine gives us 10+1(3) for Shots. We clock in at about the same weight as the 98k, so let's call it ST 10. -5 looks about right for Bulk. It's a semi-auto gas-blowback, so RCL 3 like the FG-42. So that gives us the following Gewehr 43, 7.92x57mm Mauser Damage: 7d pi Acc: 5 Range: 1,000/4,200 Weight: 9.7/1.1 ROF: 3 Shots: 10+1(3) ST: 10 Bulk: -5 Rcl: 3

11-23-2022, 01:59 PM	#4
Azinctus Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lyon, France	Re: WW2 German G43 stats? Thank you both! __________________ "wars and storms are best to be read of, but peace and calms are better to endure" Jeremy Bentham

11-23-2022, 10:59 PM	#5
Pursuivant Join Date: Apr 2005	Re: WW2 German G43 stats? There are GURPS 4E conversions of GURPS 3E WW2 weapons here: https://wiki.rpg.net/index.php/GURPS_Weapons Converted stats for the G.43 here: https://wiki.rpg.net/index.php/GURPS_Weapons_16

11-24-2022, 10:51 AM	#6
hal Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Buffalo, New York	Re: WW2 German G43 stats? If this site is to be believed: https://www.ww2-weapons.com/rifle-43/ The weight of the rifle was 4.27 kg and 4.4 loaded. I make it .23 kg for the box magazine with 10 rounds or 1/2 lb give or take. __________________ Newest Alaconius Lecture now up: https://www.worldanvil.com/w/scourge-of-shards-schpdx Go to bottom of page to see lectures 1-11

11-25-2022, 10:36 AM	#7
Willy Join Date: Dec 2020	Re: WW2 German G43 stats? Just to be curious, there was a scoped version G43 ZF, what would be the stats for this weapon? Because all G 43 was prepared for mounting a scope, but wasn´t as liked by the troops as a sniper weapon, because the fire rate of the G 43 was higher than the Kar 98 ZF but lacked in precision. Snipers didn´t like it much. The Scope ZF 43 / 43/1 both also called ZF 4 was a 4x scope which offered 50m steps between 100 and 800m.

11-25-2022, 01:10 PM	#8
johndallman Night Watchman Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Cambridge, UK	Re: WW2 German G43 stats? A x4 scope gives +2 Acc, making the rifle Acc 5+2. Add the weight of the scope, and you're done. __________________ The Path of Cunning. Indexes: DFRPG Characters, Advantage of the Week, Disadvantage of the Week, Skill of the Week, Techniques.