07-21-2011, 02:32 AM | #11 |
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Re: Glass Bottle vs. 9 mm Parabellum
If "glass is too fragile to be Homogeneous in GURPS terms", then there arises a new problem: Where's the borderline between "Doesn't deserve Homogeneous because of its basic fragility" and "Not fragile enough to be deprived of Homogenous"? Are 2-gallon glass bottles Homogenous or not? How about 58-cubic-inch wodden boxes? (Both on p. 34 of Low-Tech.)
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07-21-2011, 02:58 AM | #12 | |
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Re: Glass Bottle vs. 9 mm Parabellum
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07-21-2011, 03:03 AM | #13 |
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Re: Glass Bottle vs. 9 mm Parabellum
It should probably have DR:3 HP:1 instead.
This way, if you hit someone with it, it won't break unless you do a lot of damage 4+. (this is realistic). But a single powerful blow (or shot) will break it. |
07-21-2011, 03:14 AM | #14 | |
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Rules are no substitute for common sense. Sorry.
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07-21-2011, 03:33 AM | #15 |
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Re: Glass Bottle vs. 9 mm Parabellum
However, falling damage is crushing. Whether Homogenous or not has nothing to do with the wounding multiplier of crushing attack.
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07-21-2011, 03:34 AM | #16 |
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Re: Glass Bottle vs. 9 mm Parabellum
Yes, I think I know what the GM is supposed to do on the table and I totally agree with you. In fact, when I'm the GM, I'd say exactly the same thing to my players. However, I've been submitting questions about the book-written rules of GURPS here, not asking advice on how common sense works in RPGs. Sorry.
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07-21-2011, 03:40 AM | #17 | |
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Re: Glass Bottle vs. 9 mm Parabellum
Rules can't fully replace the internal model of reality you call 'common sense', but it's fair to ask that they not contradict it.
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I'd probably then make the 2-gallon bottle not homogeneous, and the wooden box homogeneous, based on my impression of their respective material properties.
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07-21-2011, 03:44 AM | #18 |
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Re: Glass Bottle vs. 9 mm Parabellum
Ah, the fun with languages. I mean, if it's liquid or gaseous as opposed to solid, it should be Diffuse. :)
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07-21-2011, 04:35 AM | #19 |
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Re: Glass Bottle vs. 9 mm Parabellum
The rules Basic specifically give hollow objects as an example of Homogeneous.
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07-21-2011, 04:46 AM | #20 |
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Re: Glass Bottle vs. 9 mm Parabellum
I said "opposite of solid", not "opposite of Homogeneous".
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