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Old 01-05-2017, 06:52 PM   #101
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Lokke...you posted your own FanMade idea about using the spoof NINJAs like others have been posting their ideas. You mentioned how you like simple, ect. so it appeared you were ok with posting and seeing posts of FanMade ideas, which is why I then posted my three ideas that were finally, finalized, finally. I just thought at least SHROUD was simple enough that you maybe thought it had merit and posted the others for progressively more sophisticated/complex examples to compare it with (SILENT RUNNING being the most sophisticated, it just needs more concise and understandable wording), to see what we may want or not and help move the whole NINJA concept forward was all, which is exactly what is happening here.

Your Spoof idea is no different than anyone elses contribution here in the sense that they are all just ideas and suggestions in the iterative process. The official proposals to varying degrees are taken from such Fanmade ideas, yours included. I was simply doing what you were by using my own ideas as examples also...which is usually messy and can get heated as people kick ideas around so I'm sorry if anyone feels they are suffering through my iterative musings trying to move the thing forward or if I offended them in any way. I actually enjoy reading other peoples stuff like that. I won't apologize for the actual iterative process itself because that is just how it is.

Viewed in the context of what I just mentioned, I assumed you were also referring to other peoples FanMade ideas when mentioning about the official NINJA draft rules, because you also mentioned about rules being munchkinized and that you were not pointing fingers...hence the original "I know" comment that I deleted and changed to "My bad". I am sorry, I didn't intend to offend you.

Agreed, OGRE is a very well balanced game. Imho, the more balanced the game, the more it can successfully support additional additions in the form of new units, weapons systems, ect. if they compliment the game. Even so, even if they work well and compliment the game, they may be changing things too much, I agree. It's a grey area and it's part of the iterative process. You come up with a crap load of more stuff that compliments or contradicts or under powers or overpowers upsets and unbalances until you eventually parse it all out into a balanced and final version.
Stuff that doesn't get used maybe will be useful to inspire other ideas, or be useful in other ways and areas of the game.

Point Values have their limits too I agree. But let's explore those limits before deciding what does and doesn't work in the OGRE we all want to play.

I'm not commenting anymore in this thread until the new NINJA update is loaded. Hopefully that doesn't mean it will never be posted...lol

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Old 01-07-2017, 01:00 PM   #102
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Although Tim beat me to the punch, I'm going to politely request that everyone hold on any further commentary until I get the next version posted.

Let's keep this fun, everybody!

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Old 01-26-2017, 08:45 PM   #103
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I'm closing this thread. A new one, with the "final" Ninja, will be posted soon.

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