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Old 08-10-2022, 09:14 AM   #11
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My preference for how to move forwards on this is for somebody to send in an example of play for Hexagram where they choose resolutions for the contradictions and through publication make them stick.


A scenario I'd apply is our heroes are trying to climb up to raid a dragon's nest and the rogue is halfway up the rope when the dragon appears. Wizard casts a flight spell while the fighter is firing crossbow, etc.
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Old 08-10-2022, 11:35 AM   #12
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See also WSRB page 7: "DX ADJUSTMENTS DUE TO TYPE OF TARGET (FOR EITHER CASTING OF SPELLS OR PHYSICAL ATTACKS )"

So spells suffer the same penalties.

Also see
ITL 133: "Most flying creatures may attack foes on the ground. This attack will also be at -4 DX"
and
ITL 25: "so if he/she attacks while in the air, his/her DX will be adjusted by -2 for regular physical attacks or magic spells cast on another"

So if a flying dragon attacks a ground target is it -4, -2, or zero adjustment?
WSRB?

Obviously, that's inconsistent with the quote from Bola.
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Old 08-10-2022, 11:56 AM   #13
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WSRB?
The Fantasy Trip Wizard Spell Reference Booklet.pdf
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Old 08-10-2022, 11:58 AM   #14
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My preference for how to move forwards on this is for somebody to send in an example of play for Hexagram where they choose resolutions for the contradictions and through publication make them stick.
I'd vastly prefer errata listed in a sticky on this forum and corrected in updated PDFs of the appropriate books.
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Old 08-10-2022, 12:15 PM   #15
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Agree with Shostak. You shouldn't have to fork out money to get access to rules fixes.

I really like Hexagram and have bought most of them, but errata or clarifications should be free.
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Old 08-10-2022, 12:30 PM   #16
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I'd vastly prefer errata listed in a sticky on this forum and corrected in updated PDFs of the appropriate books.
Figure out exactly the wording you want then email Evil Stevie and ask him to add to
https://thefantasytrip.game/resources/errata/
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Old 08-10-2022, 12:45 PM   #17
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Figure out exactly the wording you want then email Evil Stevie and ask him to add to
https://thefantasytrip.game/resources/errata/
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Oh, we get to write the rules corrections? That's news; I thought we reported inconsistencies which were then officially corrected by SJGames.
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Old 08-10-2022, 01:05 PM   #18
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Oh, we get to write the rules corrections? That's news; I thought we reported inconsistencies which were then officially corrected by SJGames.
I suspect that if you provide the content yourself you'll see it uploaded a lot quicker.
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Old 08-10-2022, 05:30 PM   #19
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You can keep saying that (and it's you I had in mind, though I mistakenly wrote "creation" instead of "special"), but it ain't a damned spell at my table because it is not referred to as a spell anywhere in the book that I can see.
Yes, Staff is a Special spell, which creates a staff. The staff's occult attack is something else, but is never described as a spell itself.
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Old 08-10-2022, 10:28 PM   #20
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So if a flying dragon attacks a ground target is it -4, -2, or zero adjustment?
Yes it is inconsistent. I will take it as it is written. That is, these are the modifiers for fliers attacking someone on the ground and how it says to apply them:

The -2 DX is for someone under the effects of the Flight.

The -4 DX is for flying creatures.

I know it makes it sound like someone under the spell is at a disadvantage ("not used to flying") when flying, but I see it the opposite as that. Those under Flight spell are flying magically and not limited by flapping of wings and manipulating the air (aerofoil, etc) in order to move. A flying saucer compared to a airplane.

So, I take it exactly as stated.
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