05-25-2022, 11:23 AM | #1 | |
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Depressing News for International KickStarter Fans
Steve Jackson Games have just announced the following. As many of you will know, Steve Jackson will be running a KickStarter for the new Groo and WizWar.
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I tried to get my local game shops in the UK to get the new Car Wars, but they would not do so. KickStarter was the only option for me. So Groo and Wizwar are 2 games I really want, and are 2 games I am unlikely going to get. Sad times. (I can foresee heroic Americans running copies of Groo and WizWar across the Atlantic in speed boats to sell to their game-starved friends in the Third-World-Europe and Third-World-UK.) Last edited by JAA; 05-25-2022 at 11:29 AM. |
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05-25-2022, 02:20 PM | #2 |
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Re: Depressing News for International KickStarter Fans
I should add, I do not blame you for this decision. Sometimes it feels bureaucracy in the UK is the only growth industry.
As well as being a big Steve Jackson Games fan, I am also a big Columbia Games fan. They did a special offer when it was Grant's birthday, so I ordered something from the States to the UK. It got held up in customs UK and then they overcharged me on the VAT/duty and even charged a premium on the 'handling' fee. I asked a question about it and it took UK customs about a month for them to reply. It would have wasted too much time to get the overpayment back. Think of all the other people who were overcharged by UK Customs at that time. The only positive I can get from it is hopefully my question back then has stopped others from getting overcharged by UK Customs in the future. Last edited by JAA; 05-25-2022 at 04:00 PM. |
05-25-2022, 02:53 PM | #3 |
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Re: Depressing News for International KickStarter Fans
The reverse is true to an extent as well. I buy railroad history books published in limited quantities in the U.K. Postage costs and times are outrageous, but if I want the book, I have to knuckle under and pay for what I want.
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05-25-2022, 06:23 PM | #4 |
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Re: Depressing News for International KickStarter Fans
How difficult is it to bring new copies of a game to a friend in GK / Europe?
If you carried half a dozen copies, would you get hit with duties? Three copies?
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05-25-2022, 07:09 PM | #5 | |
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05-26-2022, 05:31 AM | #6 |
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Re: Depressing News for International KickStarter Fans
If you want printed material from the US, nominate a US-based reshipping service (there are many of them). That way, in these cases, SJG ships to a US address and then the backer/buyer pays for it to be reshipped to them somewhere else in the world.
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05-26-2022, 07:37 AM | #7 |
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Re: Depressing News for International KickStarter Fans
Yeah, it's sad but I completely understand them. In fact, I thought this was already the policy. Shipping anything except PDFs is just too expensive. I don't know if you get a voucher for a POD service or something? I think local production from globally supplied blueprints will become more important.
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05-27-2022, 01:45 PM | #8 |
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Re: Depressing News for International KickStarter Fans
Are you quite sure they were declared as books by the shipper? One company which I won't name but with which we've both done business shipped me several items, via UPS, declared as "games" (VAT-rated) rather than "books" (zero-VAT even if they're RPG material) – having ignored my specific instruction to the contrary – and then tried to claim the extra charge wasn't their problem.
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05-28-2022, 07:46 AM | #9 | |
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Kixto was so incensed about it they wound up crediting me the money and applying for a refund from HM government. I still paid the exorbitant storage fee in the end.
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05-29-2022, 11:55 PM | #10 |
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Re: Depressing News for International KickStarter Fans
As fellow Aussie Farmer mentioned, freight forwarding services are the solution for the individual consumer. You get your product mailed to a location in the USA and they ship things onward to you, wherever you are in the world.
I'm not saying it's not an annoyance, but as a fan who simply wants a particular product - you can get it. And the shipping costs may not be as bad as you think. |
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