05-01-2021, 03:35 PM | #41 | |
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Classic victim blaming but does seem to allow SJ to escape checkmate |
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05-01-2021, 04:12 PM | #42 |
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I meant it as a broad generalization. Really it comes down to who expects what. Guild wizards may or may not have some idea how many of their fellows know which spells, and they may or may not share that information, or ideas about what to do about it, with any friends they might have outside the guild. On the other hand, some mercenary captain might train his company to disbelieve when they see certain things (q.v. the Illusions section in the Death Test intro). And in other communities where they rarely tangle with magic, maybe hardly anyone would think to disbelieve anything. In some places where they've had a lot of illusions, people may be in the habit of trying to disbelieve things.
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05-01-2021, 05:32 PM | #43 |
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If evolution occurs in Cidri, surely Bayesian reasoning would be a useful tool. All these bell curve dice rolls must do pretty well with such reasoning.
Except, I suppose, that sometimes the evidence draws you temporarily to really stupid associations like, "On Tuesdays, a spear does triple damage to an earth elemental." So much randomness is bound to make overfitting a problem. |
05-04-2021, 10:03 AM | #44 | |
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05-04-2021, 10:25 AM | #45 | ||
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The caster can see through its "eyes" (which has been clarified to mean sense through its "senses") -- in some sense an illusion can "perceive" and the "perceptory view port" moves with the location and orientation of the illusion. No matter how far away a person was when the illusion was cast, if they come near to its location, they will perceive it and potentially take damage from it, even if they teleported in from far away. These things indicate that illusions are not just some kind of psychic suggestion that only exists in the minds of the victims; they have an objective existence apart from the observers. |
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05-04-2021, 10:46 AM | #46 |
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That's all a pretty good analysis, zot, though of course there are other features that make it more than a bit fuzzy. There's some sort of objective component to illusions and yet they don't affect mindless stuff. That's pretty odd. The illusion really does exist in some sense, but to affect real stuff, the stuff must believe in it. Except for the noted exceptions, which somehow don't require a capacity to believe but still vanish when disbelieved.
Well, it's a mystery... |
05-05-2021, 02:11 PM | #47 | |
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This raises even more questions though. Where does it stop? Examples:
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05-05-2021, 02:55 PM | #48 | |
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05-05-2021, 03:11 PM | #50 | |
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But if illusions affect minds not matter, they can't hack you to bits inside your unblemished armour. And RAW says this happens. So my questions are really for zot or others using illusions with objective reality. I think zot's reading is pretty close to RAW, and minds not matter is not. But RAW raises so many questions for me. :) |
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