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05-10-2021, 09:56 PM | #12 | |
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We could halve the damage of bows, and it wouldn't be too much.
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05-10-2021, 10:08 PM | #13 | |
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This is consistent with what you'd expect from a bow of 100+ pounds drown for a couple of feet. Oh, and I specified ST13. [/nitpick]
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05-11-2021, 12:12 AM | #14 |
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Damage isn't purely a function of energy, and there's the general problem that ST damage in GURPS has a really weird curve, but a .22 isn't a terribly powerful bullet.
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All that said, I'm not entirely certain a moderately strong man with a bow shouldn't have comparable penetration to .22 LR. It's well-known to be a pretty anemic round, after all.
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05-11-2021, 09:42 AM | #16 |
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A modern big-game hunting bow has about half that kinetic energy. In testing, a replica 150 lb warbow maxed out around 130 J.
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05-11-2021, 12:43 PM | #18 | |
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05-11-2021, 03:12 PM | #19 | |
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Source: Bourke and Whetham, "A report of the findings of the Defence Academy warbow trials Part 1 Summer 2005," Arms and Armour, pp.53-82.
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05-11-2021, 09:55 PM | #20 | |
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Joe Gibbs has demonstrated that 165lb warbows cannot consistently penetrate a .5% Carbon steel breastplate ranging from 1.5mm to 2.5mm, at 10m and 25m ranges. So, yeah, I believe that the damage values of guns and bows are not anywhere near right. Medieval plate armor is not going to protect you against even notoriously under powered pistol calibers. This also gets into an issue with the way real world projectiles interact with armor and the soft squishy stuff it protects. Thinner thicknesses of armor tend to remove very little energy from the penetrating round, allowing very deep penetration in soft tissues.
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