10-03-2021, 08:51 AM | #1 |
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Detect Sin power or soell
I am wondering how you would use a spell or power like Detect Sin in a DF game. I am thinking that this power could be used by demons or evil clerics to identify bad disadvantages in PCs like Sadism, Bully, Sloth, Gluttony and Lecherous to use it against them. Maybe if a demon or evil cleric knows that a PC is lecherous then he may gate in a succubus to weaken him. Or if the PC is an addict or alcoholic he can tempt him with drugs and alcohol. Or maybe the demon can feign weakness and attempt to control the mind of a PC with Weakness or Sadism. I am sort of interested in how to play such a power in a game. Thanks.
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10-03-2021, 11:57 AM | #2 |
Join Date: Feb 2009
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Re: Detect Sin power or soell
How do you cast a soell? ;-)
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10-04-2021, 08:34 AM | #3 |
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Re: Detect Sin power or soell
It all depends on what the detector wants. Does he want to corrupt his victim, or is he trying to kill his opponent and bathe in their blood? The first is far more interesting, but gets very dark very quickly, and isn't really what I think of in a DF game... though it might work for an imp familiar trying to corrupt its "master".
In either case, the advantage works best when coupled with time to setup a temptation. An adventurer may be lecherous, but if the demon discovers that in the midst of combat it probably doesn't matter much. So ideally the detector either lives in town/some other social arena, or they can see the adventurer's coming and rapidly prepare.
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10-04-2021, 03:34 PM | #4 |
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Re: Detect Sin power or soell
Could also be used by good priests in a "this is what you need to work on" fashion.
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10-06-2021, 10:14 AM | #5 |
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Re: Detect Sin power or soell
Some of Douglas Cole's excellent Nordlond material includes a type of demon with a take on this idea. The demonic falleglygi ("beautiful lie") from Citadel at Nordvorn tries to take advantage of a character's weaknesses: "The demon uses Mind-Search and Mind-Reading to learn their foes' exploitable disadvantages." It's an interesting implementation of a demon that preys on a victim's weakness.
The psychology skill also reveals exploitable disadvantages, so a creature might have a power based on that. (Or just a high skill level.) |
10-06-2021, 10:29 AM | #6 | |
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Re: Detect Sin power or soell
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10-06-2021, 12:18 PM | #7 | |
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Re: Detect Sin power or soell
Here is some Kromm gold that you can retool for this purpose:
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10-06-2021, 12:54 PM | #8 |
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Re: Detect Sin power or soell
I wrote up an ability like this called Soul Sight in Pyramid #3/99: Death and Beyond, p. 4. It's for GURPS, of course, but it could be a good start.
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10-06-2021, 01:40 PM | #9 |
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Re: Detect Sin power or soell
Thus far in my Nordlond game, we've had plenty of interaction with falleglygi who have been far more frightening than a mere boink-bot. I've got devious plans brewing for an upcoming session.
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10-06-2021, 02:25 PM | #10 |
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Saint Paul, MN
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Re: Detect Sin power or soell
While mulling this over, I noticed that the Weaken Will spell doesn't affect disadvantages with a control roll. This made me wonder if there are any canonical abilities that reduce the odds of resisting your mental disads.
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