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Old 12-15-2023, 08:35 PM   #6391
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There were sky pirates in our real history! In 1917 a German Zeppelin attacked and captured a Norwegian merchant ship!

A world were the Germans exploited this tactic far more widely is of course wildly unlikely. Still it is possible because it did happen once.

Any speculation on the effects of German Sky Pirates?
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Old 12-16-2023, 03:55 AM   #6392
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What quantum is IOU from GURPS:IOU in? It has a Q3 vibe, but it makes more sense as a Q5 setting.
Good question. I had always imagined it existing on its own, connecting to different worlds, like Huy-Breasil, or Pyramid's Auer retail chain.

It could be on an otherwise normal no-parachronics Q5 parallel (like Reality Abzu) that has this one weird geographic quantum anomaly. The Dean knows of Infinity, but finds the organization overbearing - IOU does NOT accept scholarships from Infinity.


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Although most parallels based on a Superflu epidemic choose the 1919 flu epidemic. But there were other scary flu outbreaks. The 1957 flu pandemic happening during the Cold War has interesting possibilities. If you have a 90% kill rate and a societal collapse, by 1990 you've got a classic post-apocalyptic setting.

Assume small enclaves of education and surviving industry which are either employers or goals for the PCs and you've got an adventure setting. More of the pre-pandemic society would survive in this setting than in a 21st century pandemic super-plague simply because the Green Revolution hadn't yet happened so agriculture would be less disrupted by the collapse of world trade.
This is interesting. It's like a post-nuclear war fifties post-apocalyptic, but doesn't have to deal with all the fallout. Without industry being computerized, there's lots of tech left over that could still work (though rusted).


Wasn't there also a big flu outbreak in the seventies? I think it was copied into Cornwallis' influenza epidemic during The War of the Five Thrones. An extreme version of that could give a post-apocalyptic society where the end of the world was more recent, has those who could remember life before, and survival of 1970s culture...
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Old 12-16-2023, 07:19 AM   #6393
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There were sky pirates in our real history! In 1917 a German Zeppelin attacked and captured a Norwegian merchant ship!

A world were the Germans exploited this tactic far more widely is of course wildly unlikely. Still it is possible because it did happen once.

Any speculation on the effects of German Sky Pirates?
Good Sir, this was not piracy, but a legit act. The Zeppelin was in the service of the German Navy, and the Norwegian (sailing) ship was crossing the German Border at sea illegally. During WW1.
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Old 12-16-2023, 06:47 PM   #6394
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Good Sir, this was not piracy, but a legit act. The Zeppelin was in the service of the German Navy, and the Norwegian (sailing) ship was crossing the German Border at sea illegally. During WW1.
Well, it's as close to Sky Pirates as our reality gets. Go with the ridiculous glamor and useless beauty.
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Well, it's as close to Sky Pirates as our reality gets. Go with the ridiculous glamor and useless beauty.
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Old 12-26-2023, 07:18 PM   #6396
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Ivan the Terrible could very easily have died as a child. Imagine a world where Novagrad became the dominant power in the Russian cultural/political space. Northern Russia would evolve in ways closer to the Baltic Sea nations. Souther Russia would probably become part of the Ottoman cultural sphere.

This would set up an interesting 18th century with the Ukrainian area being and area of constant wars. It would be a place were being an adventurer would be a job description.
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Ivan the Terrible could very easily have died as a child. Imagine a world where Novagrad became the dominant power in the Russian cultural/political space. Northern Russia would evolve in ways closer to the Baltic Sea nations. Souther Russia would probably become part of the Ottoman cultural sphere.

This would set up an interesting 18th century with the Ukrainian area being and area of constant wars. It would be a place were being an adventurer would be a job description.
You need to be more explicit in how B follows from A, particularly since Russia is entering its second full generation of unification at your point of divergence. I'll try to help.

With Ivan Grozny dead as a child and his surviving brother Yuri not considered a candidate for Tsar due to congenital deafness, his uncles Yuri and Andrei are eventually given permission to marry and reproduce, if only because Uncle Yuri will eventually be the one giving the permission. Meanwhile, deaf Prince Yuri has better luck with children and has a surviving son. When Tsar* Yuri dies, a two or three way civil war kicks off between supporters of the three Imperial lines, resulting in a partition. Vladimir Andreievich gets Novgorod, a Yurevich gets Moscow, if applicable a second Yurevich gets somewhere else (Kyiv, perhaps).

I have real doubts that any of these kingdoms will model themselves after Lithuania, Sweden or the Ottomans. They're still three Russias. But they've probably all avoided serfdom (since nobody but Ivan Grozny could have pulled off its imposition) so that's interesting.

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Old 12-28-2023, 12:44 PM   #6398
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You need to be more explicit in how B follows from A, particularly since Russia is entering its second full generation of unification at your point of divergence. I'll try to help.

With Ivan Grozny dead as a child and his surviving brother Yuri not considered a candidate for Tsar due to congenital deafness, his uncles Yuri and Andrei are eventually given permission to marry and reproduce, if only because Uncle Yuri will eventually be the one giving the permission. Meanwhile, deaf Prince Yuri has better luck with children and has a surviving son. When Tsar* Yuri dies, a two or three way civil war kicks off between supporters of the three Imperial lines, resulting in a partition. Vladimir Andreievich gets Novgorod, a Yurevich gets Moscow, if applicable a second Yurevich gets somewhere else (Kyiv, perhaps).

I have real doubts that any of these kingdoms will model themselves after Lithuania, Sweden or the Ottomans. They're still three Russias. But they've probably all avoided serfdom (since nobody but Ivan Grozny could have pulled off its imposition) so that's interesting.
Novagorod was a merchant led republic with little interest in the Ukrainian area. They had some interest in the Volga and building an alliance with the Tattars [a group distinct from the Tartars). Also, Ivan destroyed multiple competing power centers in the Russian space with through going brutality. Erase Ivan and these multiple power centers are still active.
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Old 12-31-2023, 06:40 PM   #6399
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Try this idea. The Kaiser realizes that any invasion of Belgium will force Britain into war against the invaders. So, the Kaiser decides that the attack must avoid Belgium. However, he makes sure to have the intelligence service leave tons of subtle hints that Germany will go through Belgium to get to France and count on defeating France before Britain is ready.

This disinformation campaign worked! Thus France was caught by surprise and Paris was captured early. Although the conquest of France still took longer than expected, the war against Russia worked out pretty much as in Homeline's history. The treaty with Russia was just as brutal as in Homeline history and with France beaten, Germany kept their gains.

It's now 1920. Germany is riding high. Britain realizes that the German domination of Europe is creating just the kind of threat Britain had been trying to prevent for centuries.

Basically, it's a Game of Shadows in Europe. Centrum sees building an alliance between Britain and Germany as the path to dominating this world. The Cabal wants influence in the Americas but they want to stir up trouble in Europe to keep Centrum busy. Homeline wants to build an alliance of Russia, France, Japan, the US, and the UK. Such an alliance would prevent anyone power block from owning this parallel.
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Old 01-01-2024, 09:55 PM   #6400
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Try this idea, Prince Mohammed Ali Tewfik, cousin of the infamous playboy King Farouk of Egypt had ploted to sieze the throne for decades. Picture a car accident killing off Farouk before he could be king. Ali Tewfik, whose policy as regent was focused solely on plotting to take the throne is now free to actually be King of Egypt.

Ali Tewfik in the Q6 parallel were events actually made him king, decided that playing on the British fears of Arab nationalists to rise Egyptian living standards was the only path to a stable throne. By being seen as the King who made life better Ali Tewfik gained a popularity that Farouk never dreamed of.

Centrum, always interested in making the British Empire stronger, sees Ali Tewfik as an ally in sustaining British influence and prestige in the Arab world. This has lead to Centrum making sure Ali Tewfik's Egypt becomes more prosperous.

Meanwhile, Egyptians from Homeline have traveled to this Q6 Egypt to make sure the Aswan high dam is never built. In their Egypt (Homeline Egypt) the Aswan dam has been a growing disaster. Simply blocking the natural flow of silt (a common problem of pre TL8 dams) the Aswan dam has ruined the fishing in the Eastern Mediterranean and deprived the Nile Delta of the silt needed to repair erosion. Lake Nasser on Homeline (or any other parallel with a lake Nasser) reduces the flow of the Nile dramatically. First spreading the waters of the Nile out to form lake Nasser radically increases evaporation. The weight of lake Nasser's waters forces water through local geological flaunts. This water seeps into the Red Sea and seriously disrupted the fisheries there. The waters diverted for irrigation are also subject to radically increased evaporation. This dramatic reduction in flow at the mouth of the Nile reduces the protection the Nile's flow gave to the Delta. All of this leads to a dramatic loss of productive farmland.

These Egyptians can't preserve Homeline Egypt so they strive to protect other Egypts. They see Ali Tewfik as likely to get an Aswan dam built. So they plan to kill him and Nasser.

Basically, spy versus spy in modern Egypt. Careful, try not to buy ancient Egyptian relics made in Japan.
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