12-28-2020, 10:15 PM | #71 |
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Re: Meteoric iron immunities
Latest best-guess from my UK quantum physicist friend is that the iron inside an iron star would be under extremely high pressure and temperature*, and would be solid metallic as a result.
From the DF viewpoint, this is going to be a one-way gate that brings in the stellar matter iron (which shares identical traits as meteoric iron) in useable form with a complex intermediary treatment that is as sophisticated as it is unseen. Edit: *although at the extremely long time periods and theoretical near-heat-equilibrium, I wonder if it's more accurate to assume that the entire iron star is close to 0K. Last edited by SolemnGolem; 01-02-2021 at 07:02 AM. |
12-29-2020, 04:40 AM | #72 |
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Re: Meteoric iron immunities
We're opening a gate into a star to collect stellar core iron?
One method could be to have the gate on one mountain, pointing across the valley to the next mountain. Open the gate and stand well back, then come back the next day to pick through the remnants of the target mountain for the woot.
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12-29-2020, 06:05 AM | #73 |
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Re: Meteoric iron immunities
Yes, the vigorous waving of hands can indeed be good at cooling things down. So long as you (and your players) are comfortable with that, it's probably your best option, here.
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12-29-2020, 06:15 AM | #74 |
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Re: Meteoric iron immunities
But if stellar iron is anti-magic, wouldn't it destroy the gate once it came into contact with it?
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12-29-2020, 07:00 AM | #75 |
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Re: Meteoric iron immunities
Perhaps it destroys the gate and a new one has to be built, on another mountain, to get a new batch of stellar iron. I don't think any of this should have to be a simple undertaking.
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12-29-2020, 07:36 AM | #76 |
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Re: Meteoric iron immunities
Magic null, not anti-magic. A magical flame won't heat it, but it won't dispel the flame either. Normally it would simply be unable to be transported by a magic Gate, but wouldn't harm it in any way. Carried meteoric/astral iron, however, has no issue sticking with whoever is carting it around, so if they walk through a magic Gate, the iron will come with them - again, with no damage to the Gate. Once it's away from the stellar environment it might do something that would damage whatever the Gate is anchored to (assuming that's necessary), but SolemnGolem has that part covered with a vigorous waving of hands.
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12-29-2020, 08:26 AM | #77 | |
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Re: Meteoric iron immunities
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A) It's magic creating and maintaining a connection between two locations. B) It's magic opening and holding open a connection between two locations. In A, a Gate would generally not allow passage of materials that can't be affected by magic. In B, it would allow it just as easily as it could pass through a door held open with magical telekinesis.
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12-29-2020, 08:30 AM | #78 | |
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Re: Meteoric iron immunities
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(Perhaps that's why this iron is so dead to magic. Mana in that absurdly old universe succumbs, just like everything else. So not only does this iron not have any - zero Kelvin, zero Thaums -- it'll soak up ambient mana just as it'd soak up ambient heat until the iron gets back to being normal iron.) |
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FWIW, I'd personally be inclined to have everything but the shackles get teleported through the Gate in each of the above cases. To transport meteoric iron in an instantaneous fashion, you'd need a type B Gate from your description, which I'd have be markedly more difficult to manage. But, that's not the default for DF. Quote:
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12-30-2020, 03:39 AM | #80 |
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Re: Meteoric iron immunities
First edition Chivalry & Sorcery to enchant a magic item like a sword the first step was a long process of getting the natural magic out of the raw materials so that you could then start putting the magic you wanted in. Making a magic sword was a multi-year process.
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