02-13-2023, 06:40 AM | #11 |
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Re: Scratching with a poisoned needle
This was actually my immediate thought if you were doing this as a stealth attack - whether for assassination or more modern purposes. Given that almost all poisons take time to act, being able to disguise the attack as a bump or brush pass gives you time to spike the target and then make your distance before the symptoms start.
Otherwise, go with brawl or karate to land an otherwise unarmed attack that happens to deliver a needle strike. Expect armour to render such a strike irrelevant without some serious penalties. Or just make like Ananais from The King Beyond the Gate and have the needles built into a set of cesti - again, using brawl but making it much less obvious what you've just done. |
02-13-2023, 06:44 AM | #12 | |
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If you're specifically slashing or stabbing with a needle built into some other object, like a Hypodermic, use Knife skill instead. In a non-combat situation, use whatever Influence skill allows you to get close to your target then use Sleight of Hand to deliver the poison unobtrusively. Your target will almost certainly notice, unless they've got the Numb disadvantage or they're exited and distracted, so roll vs. Acting, Diplomacy, or Fast Talk to apologize for the "accidental" injury. |
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02-13-2023, 07:29 AM | #13 |
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Re: Scratching with a poisoned needle
For something like a needle mounted on a handle (including a hypodermic needle on a syringe, but then you're looking at a stab-and-inject rather than a scratch), you'd use Knife. For something like a sewing needle or bo shuriken, you'd use Brawling. For needles that are mounted on the hand in some fashion (such as on a ring or attached to gloves), you could probably manage with a grappling skill of some flavor. I'd still be inclined to call for an appropriate combat skill for a surreptitious stabbing (or scratching), but you'd use other skills to get away with it - Shadowing to get close to the target without getting noticed, Sleight of Hand to prevent anyone from noticing you're armed, Acting to play it off as an accidental collision, etc.
As others have noted, realistically even if a scratch is enough to get a proper dose of the poison it will take some time to have an effect, typically making poison a poor choice for tactical combat (it can be useful at the strategic level, potentially making minor wounds markedly more severe and also damaging OpFor's morale... but if it basically gives OpFor permission to ignore the laws of war, it may well backfire). But poisons that work at a tactical time scale (in seconds - or even instantly - rather than in minutes) are extremely common in fiction and RPG's, which can potentially make a poisoned needle a useful weapon.
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02-13-2023, 08:21 AM | #14 |
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Re: Scratching with a poisoned needle
If you're not in a combat situation, you could use Physician. Doctors (and nurses, who also have Physician skill) learn to give injections, including doing so in difficult situations. Veterinarian could probably work took.
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02-13-2023, 04:59 PM | #15 |
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Re: Scratching with a poisoned needle
The envisioned use is sort of what witches used to get accused of- covertly pricking a victim with a poisoned needle in a public place. Fantasy setting.
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02-13-2023, 05:03 PM | #16 |
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Re: Scratching with a poisoned needle
That means its not combat, Sleight of hand skill would be used vs a persons Per.
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02-13-2023, 05:09 PM | #17 | |
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Veterinarian would actually be the preferred skill. Doctors generally don't have to worry about patients who struggle to avoid getting vaccinated and are in the habit of biting, kicking, or scratching back. |
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02-14-2023, 01:08 AM | #19 | ||
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Needles used by cinematic assassins (almost?) never have anything facilitating a proper grip that would let the use control them in the way a knife could be controlled. As far as I've been able to find, they're uniformly presented as very thin metal rods with a point, which would make Shuriken a far better fit as a skill to use, but that's only as a Thrown Weapon and not Melee. Which is why I suggested that anyone who has actually trained using needles in melee combat would have a special DX/A skill called Needle. |
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02-14-2023, 05:44 AM | #20 | |
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