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Old 11-22-2023, 09:02 PM   #11
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In Mage terms, I think psionics has to count as a static supernatural ability. If it were dynamic it would be primarily the Sphere of Mind; but it seems as if psis have specific powers that transcend the normal limits of human capability, but aren't free to invent new powers as convenient. The Zhodani might at best have a Craft.
Some mages use Psionics as a paradigm. They understand their magic as mental power. You're right about normal Psions. But some mages would say they are psions.
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Old 11-23-2023, 02:59 AM   #12
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Some mages use Psionics as a paradigm. They understand their magic as mental power. You're right about normal Psions. But some mages would say they are psions.
Well, in that case, you have at least three options. They might be Traditions, and in that case most likely Sons of Ether, as they're the Tradition that is most likely to go in for scientific-sounding names for their magickal practices. They might be Technocracy, though it's harder to see them as fitting any of the standard conventions; perhaps there would have to be a new Technocratic model. Or they might be a craft, and in that case they might include both awakened psis who know that reality is subjective and unawakened psis who have only a few fixed powers.

See for example Schmitz's Telzey Amberdon stories, where the Psionic Service recognizes both type one psis, who have a single catalogued power, and type two psis, who are broad spectrum and keep coming up with new powers.
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Old 02-10-2024, 02:28 PM   #13
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Which non human groups would have mages? And how frequently do they produce Mages?
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Old 02-14-2024, 04:11 PM   #14
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The Void Engineers would be deeply influential in this world. They'd also be likely to have esoteric pathways across space. They have secret wormholes to let them pop around the galaxy. They would be far closer to and alot more like the New World Order and the Syndicate.

The honorable visionaries would have joined either the Etherites or (because of shared utopian visions) the Order of Hermes.
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Old 02-16-2024, 06:34 PM   #15
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I have in mind that in some of the published source material, we learn that large parts of outer space---originally all of superlunary space, and later everything beyond the asteroid belt---is actually in the Umbra, and its "alien" denizens are actually spirits and such. The definition of space and aliens in scientific terms is an ongoing strategy of the Technocracy to do away with belief in the supernatural. So races such as the Aslan and the Vargr, for example, might be "demons" or the like.
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Old 02-16-2024, 09:07 PM   #16
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So races such as the Aslan and the Vargr, for example, might be "demons" or the like.
They might have been "demons" but when enough of the ordinary humans believe they're just "aliens" then the subjective nature of the universe means they're just aliens.

Oh, and outer space won't be the Umbra any more either. Jump space might still be the Umbra though.
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Old 02-19-2024, 09:10 AM   #17
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They might have been "demons" but when enough of the ordinary humans believe they're just "aliens" then the subjective nature of the universe means they're just aliens.

Oh, and outer space won't be the Umbra any more either. Jump space might still be the Umbra though.
I don't know. There used to be suggestions that if you went outside the Milky Way Galaxy things got weird. Maybe space only goes out so far from Earth and then you hit the Umbra again.

Or it might be even further in. Certainly the original show had a lot of encounters with seemingly supernatural beings on distant planets.
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Old 02-28-2024, 03:30 PM   #18
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Maybe some aliens WERE demons. Perhaps some groups of Umbroods, including demons, might perfer corporeal existence. They may want/need to be aliens rather than demons/Umbroods and may have manipulated the Technocracy into doing the heavy lifting.
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Old 03-24-2024, 09:40 AM   #19
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I like the idea of Type One and Type Two Psis that Whswhs got from the Telzey Amberdon stories. Mages would clear be Type twos.

The Zhodani would have Mages among them but perhaps not a clear idea of why some Mages are incredibly flexible and powerful and others are more restricted. Alternatively, the Zhodani could be an offshoot of the Progenitors that is trying to breed a race composed only of Psis and Mages.
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Old 04-06-2024, 03:53 PM   #20
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Thinking about Thrash's question about the Psionic Institute. It would be interesting to have the largely decentralized Psionic Institutes have different roles in different places.

On some worlds they could be the equivalent of the Arcanum. They'd be aware that some Psis are completely distinct and the Psionic Institutes want to know why.

On other worlds they could be controlled by totally unaware Sleepers.

Any configuration of Tradition, Technocrat, Desparate, or craft leadership/control is possible. More importantly, they'd be gameable.
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