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Old 01-25-2013, 04:15 PM   #1
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Default Cosmic on Beneficial Afflictions to Allow Waiving Resistance?

As it is, unless you add Malediction, a beneficial Affliction may end up resisted by a target even if they want it. But +100% seems steep if you want nothing else from Malediction's mechanics.

Would Cosmic: Rules exception (50%) be fair to allow targets to waive resistance if they wanted to do so? Any downsides?
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:03 PM   #2
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As it is, unless you add Malediction, a beneficial Affliction may end up resisted by a target even if they want it. But +100% seems steep if you want nothing else from Malediction's mechanics.

Would Cosmic: Rules exception (50%) be fair to allow targets to waive resistance if they wanted to do so? Any downsides?
Yep. Seems perfectly reasonable to me.
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:07 PM   #3
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Seconded. Seems perfectly fine to me.
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:28 PM   #4
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Default Re: Cosmic on Beneficial Afflictions to Allow Waiving Resistance?

Had t think about it but I agree.
Unless your casting it on really unhealthy people your likely to succeed anyhow.
I dont see Cosmic as unbalancing or a big deal.
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Eh. I'd allow any character without a specific restriction (e.g. Magic Resistance) who's aware of the attempt to waive resistance at will, no enhancement required.
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Old 01-25-2013, 07:20 PM   #6
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Default Re: Cosmic on Beneficial Afflictions to Allow Waiving Resistance?

IIRC, a willing and aware subject can already decline to resist. I may be leaving out an enhancment that lets "the attacker" make the roll by +0
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Old 01-25-2013, 07:30 PM   #7
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IIRC, a willing and aware subject can already decline to resist. I may be leaving out an enhancment that lets "the attacker" make the roll by +0
Not per RAW, as I was recently reminded.

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If an Afflictionís effects are so unquestionably positive that no one would ever object to them, the GM may reverse the sign of the HT modifier; e.g., Affliction 3 gives a HT+2 roll instead of a HT-2 roll. Duration becomes minutes equal to the subjectís margin of success, not his margin of failure.

If such an Affliction has Malediction, the subject can waive his right to resist. The ability works if the user can make an unopposed Will roll (at the usual range penalties). In this case, duration in minutes equals the userís margin of success.
I'm inclined to voluntary waivers, as for Malediction, for any beneficial Affliction.

The first paragraph may have errata. The resistance roll is HT + 1 - level. Reversing the sign of the modifier should be HT + 1 + 3 (in this example). You could argue that both signs get reversed (HT - 1 + 3), but the motivation there would seem to be just making the answer match the text. Still you could count the +1 as part of "the modifier".
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Still you could count the +1 as part of "the modifier".
It is. The level is one factor in calculating the modifier; it is not the entire modifier.
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It is. The level is one factor in calculating the modifier; it is not the entire modifier.
Only if you assume the roll must be a HT roll, despite the text that says it's a "HT + 1" roll. The fixed and immutable portion could well be considered the "base", while the variable part is the modifier. <shrug>
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Not per RAW, as I was recently reminded.



I'm inclined to voluntary waivers, as for Malediction, for any beneficial Affliction.
Yes, maledicition must've been what I was trying to think of.

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