11-17-2011, 07:00 AM | #1 |
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[DF] Bow fencers with Swashbuckler lens
Greetings, buddies!
DF 11 introduces new power-ups. One of these bad ass power-ups is the Scout's "Bow Fencer". Ok. So once a Scout has it, he can attack and parry with his bow just like it was a melee weapon, right? Ok, now what if he gets the Swashbuckler (or Knight) lens, that gives +8 points to spend in a melee skill? Can he spend these 8 poins to raise his Bow skill, since now that is his main melee skill? Or he can't, since after all, Bow is a ranged skill? What about Enhanced Parry 3 (Bow)? |
11-17-2011, 07:12 AM | #2 |
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Re: [DF] Bow fencers with Swashbuckler lens
Id say no.
It's still a ranged weapon skill. His just lucky he may use it to hit in melee. |
11-17-2011, 09:21 AM | #3 | ||
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"That seems fine to me, sure." Enhanced Parry 3, Weapon Master (Bow) and acrobatic seems to be all about bow fencing. Now, I have another question: A bow used as a melee weapon is used with one-handed or two-handed (or both)? Just in the case of two hands use, would it benefit the MA rule about two-handed weapon parries? What do you think about this Bladed Bow? What stats in GURPS rules? Last edited by Carlos; 11-17-2011 at 09:26 AM. |
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11-17-2011, 09:35 AM | #4 | |
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Re: [DF] Bow fencers with Swashbuckler lens
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http://ottgaming.grimoire.ca/Borderl...nt#New_Weapons There was a whole thread about it here.
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11-17-2011, 09:58 AM | #5 | |
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You'd build this as (say) a six-foot bow, with 2-3 feet of non-working limb in the middle. The bladed part would not deflect, and thus would not detract too much from efficiency, though balance might be wonky, and a -1 Acc and/or increased min ST just due to the extra weight of the blades might be in order. The best way to use the weapon as a "real" melee device would likely be to CUT the bowstring, which would get the limbs of the bow out of the way, and turn it into something resembling a real bladed staff. I cannot believe I'm typing this. Still, is all this really is is a take-down bow with projecting bits off of the riser.
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11-17-2011, 10:00 AM | #6 | |
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11-17-2011, 10:16 AM | #7 | ||
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Of course, the picture I was working off had the blades at the ends of the bowstave - not off the middle - so the weapon I was modeling in my head was sort of "the worlds worst batleth" or "a spear that's sharp on both ends" rather than "a fencing weapon". Quote:
What can't be bought off is the further -1 for using it while strung. If the string is cut (on a parry against a bladed weapon, or deliberately) or if it's just plain unstrung, you get rid of the -1 :) There's also a -1 to skill to use it as a bow, beyond the general ACC penalties. There's a perk to buy that off, too. Sometimes it's fun to do something ridiculous. Same, sometimes it's fun to play a character doing something ridiculous, like fighting with a bladed bow like it's a batleth or a smallsword :) I'll have to go pull out my spreadsheet and play with that idea now :)
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11-17-2011, 02:45 PM | #8 | |
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Re: [DF] Bow fencers with Swashbuckler lens
Just to remember, guys, this is a fantasy weapon.
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I don't know.The blades in the Bladed Blow doesn't look long enough for swing+1. The Bladed Bow in D&D does the same damage as a Shortsword (1d6), so I think Swing cutting damage is more apropriate. Staff/Spear for those who doesn't has Scout's power-up, Bow Fencer, right? |
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11-17-2011, 02:52 PM | #9 | ||
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http://www.kungfudirect.com/prodimag...Kung-Dao-b.jpg Quote:
EDIT: By the by, I HATE THE NEW GOOGLE SEARCH. I can't search for "Bow-sword" or "bowsword". It keeps matching "Bow, sword" and "Bow/sword" and I'm going to set their engineers on FIRE. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
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11-17-2011, 05:26 PM | #10 |
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Re: [DF] Bow fencers with Swashbuckler lens
have you trie "Bow-sword" WITH the speech marks in google search?
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