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08-25-2013, 04:59 PM | #11 |
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Re: [High-Tech] Recoil between shots/bursts for shotguns and High-Cyclic Controlled B
One thing that's been bugging me -- Rcl can't be simply "shot spread." Why not? Because why then would 7.62mm rifles have Rcl 3? I can't imagine that they are any less inherently accurate than smaller caliber rifles. Clearly, Rcl is some amalgam of shot spread plus "controllability" plus "felt recoil." "Felt recoil" is also part of MinST.
Anyway, I think that generally Rcl can be used in place of "shot spread" but it's not SOLELY that, unless I'm misunderstanding what shot spread is, which is possible.
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08-25-2013, 05:03 PM | #12 | |
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Re: [High-Tech] Recoil between shots/bursts for shotguns and High-Cyclic Controlled B
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Basically, with a full choke, you treat "extremely close range" as 20% of the 1/2D instead of 10% and beyond that, you get -1 to Guns, but hit with x1.5 shots.
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08-25-2013, 05:25 PM | #13 | |
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Re: [High-Tech] Recoil between shots/bursts for shotguns and High-Cyclic Controlled B
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Rcl1 totally controllable (a laser) Rcl2 controllable (a pistol or assault rifle) Rcl3 hard to control (a full caliber rifle or large pistol) Rcl4+ impossible to control (a hilariously large pistol, a shotgun, a large rifle) |
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08-25-2013, 05:27 PM | #14 | |
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08-25-2013, 08:35 PM | #15 | |
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08-26-2013, 06:53 AM | #16 | |
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Re: [High-Tech] Recoil between shots/bursts for shotguns and High-Cyclic Controlled B
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Projectile weight appears to have an effect as well. Shotguns with slugs have higher RCL than either guns with comparable Bulk or or penetrating power.
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08-26-2013, 07:21 AM | #17 | |
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Re: [High-Tech] Recoil between shots/bursts for shotguns and High-Cyclic Controlled B
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08-26-2013, 07:35 AM | #18 | |
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As another example, a.50 Barrett has RCL 3.That's less than a Winchester Model 70 at RCL4. A BAR fires the 30-06 same as the Model 70 but it is RCL 2 largely because it weighs about 2x the Model 70.
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08-26-2013, 07:56 AM | #19 | |
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Re: [High-Tech] Recoil between shots/bursts for shotguns and High-Cyclic Controlled B
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But again, I'm not naively basing my impression of the power of the round so I wouldn't automatically assume that the BAR and the Model 70 would have the same Rcl. |
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08-26-2013, 02:12 PM | #20 |
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Re: [High-Tech] Recoil between shots/bursts for shotguns and High-Cyclic Controlled B
It seems to me that controllability would be based mostly on projectile power and weapon weight with ergonomics playing some part. This seems in line with lexington's original rundown. I guess you could interpret "a large rifle" being in the Rcl 4+ category as including things like BAR (which would lead to poor results) but I think his list makes it clear that power and size play a role (eg large pistol = 3 vs assault rifle = 2).
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