Video of arrows vs. armor using period materials

Flyndaran · 08-31-2019, 11:31 AM

I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, or how I should phrase things.
(Mods please adjust to make things clearer if needed.)

But here's a link to a group of professionals that got together to as accurately as possible test period made arrows and arrowheads shot by a 160 lbs longbow against armor that was of the type worn by knights at the battle of Agincourt.

They even tested the armor against both unhardened and case hardened arrowheads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBxdTkddHaE

ak_aramis · 08-31-2019, 04:20 PM

I love the discussion (around 7:25) of why they only tried 160 lb draw... the thing is, up to 200 lb bows have been recovered. And the archers had what would have been visible differences in bone due to the near-constant high-draw bows. At 13 min, they explain their testing rig.

Your link, BTW, goes to the last couple shots...

Flyndaran · 08-31-2019, 04:49 PM

Whoops. Would it be in bad form to change the link to the beginning? Or does it not really matter?

ak_aramis · 09-01-2019, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Flyndaran

Whoops. Would it be in bad form to change the link to the beginning? Or does it not really matter?

It's worth correcting.

I really think they need to do a few shots with the 200 LB bow.

Anthony · 09-01-2019, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ak_aramis

I really think they need to do a few shots with the 200 LB bow.

None of the 160 lb shots were anywhere close to penetrating, 200 lb might give you some deeper dents but that's about it.

ak_aramis · 09-01-2019, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

None of the 160 lb shots were anywhere close to penetrating, 200 lb might give you some deeper dents but that's about it.

Keep in mind, steel penetration isn't directly linear, and sufficiently deep dents break bones and/or cause metal fatigue.

Agemegos · 09-01-2019, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

None of the 160 lb shots were anywhere close to penetrating, 200 lb might give you some deeper dents but that's about it.

Very likely, but I would have liked to see it demonstrated anyway. While they had the rig set up and an archer on hand capable of shooting accurately with such a bow there was an opportunity to do the test and show the results. I would have liked to have seen it done.

Flyndaran · 09-01-2019, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ak_aramis

It's worth correcting.

Link corrected to be at the beginning of the video. That was much harder than I expected.

Anaraxes · 08-31-2019, 05:01 PM

I was interested to see how much the archer's stance was distorted by his 160-lb bow. Watch him in the shots far enough back that you can see him standing, and notice how oddly bent he is, forward and to his right. Then once he releases, you can see him stand up to his normal posture.

Flyndaran · 08-31-2019, 05:31 PM

To my layman's eyes, he stands like some of the art depictions of archers that I always considered unrealistic stylized imagery.

08-31-2019, 11:31 AM	#1
Flyndaran Untagged Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Forest Grove, Beaverton, Oregon	Video of arrows vs. armor using period materials I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, or how I should phrase things. (Mods please adjust to make things clearer if needed.) But here's a link to a group of professionals that got together to as accurately as possible test period made arrows and arrowheads shot by a 160 lbs longbow against armor that was of the type worn by knights at the battle of Agincourt. They even tested the armor against both unhardened and case hardened arrowheads. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBxdTkddHaE __________________ Beware, poor communication skills. No offense intended. If offended, it just means that I failed my writing skill check. Last edited by Flyndaran; 09-01-2019 at 01:32 PM.

08-31-2019, 04:20 PM	#2
ak_aramis Join Date: May 2010 Location: Alsea, OR	Re: Video of arrows vs. armor using period materials I love the discussion (around 7:25) of why they only tried 160 lb draw... the thing is, up to 200 lb bows have been recovered. And the archers had what would have been visible differences in bone due to the near-constant high-draw bows. At 13 min, they explain their testing rig. Your link, BTW, goes to the last couple shots...

08-31-2019, 04:49 PM	#3
Flyndaran Untagged Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Forest Grove, Beaverton, Oregon	Re: Video of arrows vs. armor using period materials Whoops. Would it be in bad form to change the link to the beginning? Or does it not really matter? __________________ Beware, poor communication skills. No offense intended. If offended, it just means that I failed my writing skill check.

08-31-2019, 05:01 PM	#9
Anaraxes Join Date: Sep 2007	Re: Video of arrows vs. armor using period materials I was interested to see how much the archer's stance was distorted by his 160-lb bow. Watch him in the shots far enough back that you can see him standing, and notice how oddly bent he is, forward and to his right. Then once he releases, you can see him stand up to his normal posture.

08-31-2019, 05:31 PM	#10
Flyndaran Untagged Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Forest Grove, Beaverton, Oregon	Re: Video of arrows vs. armor using period materials To my layman's eyes, he stands like some of the art depictions of archers that I always considered unrealistic stylized imagery. __________________ Beware, poor communication skills. No offense intended. If offended, it just means that I failed my writing skill check.