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08-13-2021, 11:27 AM | #1 |
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release triggers / accidental discharge of pull-triggers
The "release trigger" (your finger lets go to fire) isn't something I can find covered in High Tech. It seems like something relevant to Major Wounds since per B420 if you fail your HT roll and get stunned, "if you were holding anything, you drop it" which would automatically fire a release-trigger rifle.
I don't know if that's necessarily something which applies to all stuns (ie mental stun from fear, the physical stun from unmodified Affliction) or only from the combination of "Knockdown and Stunning" from major wounds HT rolls. For traditional rifles (pulling trigger fires) I'm wondering how we cover situations like where someone is hit and instead of dropping anything they're holding they might reflexively (unintentionally) grip it harder and accidentally fire off a round. Or even if say they don't accidentally pull the trigger, if dropping the gun from a major wound and the gun hitting the ground might somehow set off some guns. Mostly a consideration for stealth (gun sound) or if ammo limits (maybe you have 1 cartridge left) and safety (accidentally hitting an ally) though I don't know what you'd roll to see who was hit in terms of accidental discharges since there is no original target to miss. |
08-13-2021, 11:52 AM | #2 | |
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Re: release triggers / accidental discharge of pull-triggers
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I think even the Deadman's Switch" for explsoive devices may be mostly fictional. I think High Tech does mention guns that might fire if dropped or impacted. It's msotly ones that have been actively cocked or old SA revovlers or very bad guns like the Japanese 94 Shiki from WWII. As for unintentional discharges you pick or roll for a direction and then it's a 9 or less for anybody in a relevant hex.
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08-13-2021, 12:43 PM | #3 |
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Re: release triggers / accidental discharge of pull-triggers
It's a trap-shooting gimmick used almost nowhere outside of shotgun match shooting. We talked about it briefly in the playtest . . . it mostly falls below game resolution. I guess you could model its effects by saying it drops RoF to 1, but wipes out up to -2 for opportunity fire.
It has few tactical uses, if any, because tactical shooting usually involves either rapid follow-up shots (where this is useless) or aimed fire (where this isn't going to add anything). Notably, it won't let you get instant vengeance on a person you're pointing your gun at if you get shot, because if you get shot and flinch or fall, the odds that release will happen after you're hit but before your barrel strays off-target are pretty remote. Call it 9 or less on 3d or the lower of your actual odds to hit if you try that, and note that everybody else downrange is equally likely to be hit at similar odds if that doesn't work out.
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08-13-2021, 03:18 PM | #4 | |
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Re: release triggers / accidental discharge of pull-triggers
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IE when you're the overlord with a bunch of your minions with weapons trained on the hero ready to shoot if he tries anything: you don't expect them to shoot if he's not trying anything, but in the meantime the rogue might take them out allowing hero to escape. |
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08-13-2021, 03:23 PM | #5 |
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Re: release triggers / accidental discharge of pull-triggers
I think the real issue is that these gadgets don't show up outside of trap-shooting competitions. I don't see them fitting into any realistic tactical narrative.
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08-14-2021, 10:55 AM | #6 |
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Re: release triggers / accidental discharge of pull-triggers
Yup. A trigger that operates backwards is something militaries will be very sceptical about, simply because it's different from other firearms, and thus risks confusion. They tend to be very keen to avoid negligent discharges, and this gadget will promote those.
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08-14-2021, 10:08 PM | #7 | |
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08-14-2021, 10:16 PM | #8 | |
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Re: release triggers / accidental discharge of pull-triggers
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