Level up Card

drmunchkin · 10-31-2012, 08:18 PM

In the rules, and on forums, it seems the 'Go up a level' card can be played at ANY time to go up a level expect to win the game.
I was wondering, if this is correct, say for example, you are level 7, you have two 'Go up a level' cards in your hand you are holding on too and you are turn up a monster, say a level 14, ask for help, a player offers help.
no other players offer a way to stop the victory, could you THEN use the 2 cards, go up to level 9 and win?
it seems REALLY cheap, the player helping already has all his help in and can't decide to NOT offer help at this point. thats why I ask.

Mister Ed · 10-31-2012, 08:24 PM

You can wait until after you get help for the combat to play the GUALs to get you to level 9. However you must still allow everybody the chance to try to stop you from winning.

Even if everybody else has already tapped themselves out trying to stop you, your "helper", while they can't leave (without the use of one of a very few specific cards), will probably decide to take action against you, even though it means he will lose the combat along with you, if the alternative is you winning the game.

Areop-Enap · 11-06-2012, 02:35 PM

Actually, in the rules, it says you have to play GUAL cards in the BEGINNING of your turn, unless of course you have a Cheat! card or a special power enabling using GUALs at other times.

DoomedDuck · 11-06-2012, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Areop-Enap

Actually, in the rules, it says you have to play GUAL cards in the BEGINNING of your turn, unless of course you have a Cheat! card or a special power enabling using GUALs at other times.

You must be looking at old rules, because that's not what the current rules say.

Quote:

Treasure cards can be played as soon as you get them. Item
cards can be placed in front of you. “Go Up a Level” cards can be
used instantly. You may play a “Go Up a Level” card on any
player at any time.

http://www.worldofmunchkin.com/rules/munchkin_rules.pdf

Clipper · 11-06-2012, 03:11 PM

I think Areop-Enap might be confused by the Turn Phases section of the rules. Although it does mention playing cards and doing things before you Kick Open the Door, that doesn't mean you can't do those actions in the later phases as well, although it is possible to incorrectly infer this restriction might be in place.

Later in the rules, it does clarify that GUAL cards can be played at any time as you state, DoomedDuck.

Also, Areop-Enap, Cheat! can only be used with Items and it cannot be used to play cards when you would not be able to play them either. For example, you cannot play Items to the table during combat, even with Cheat!. What Cheat! does do is to allow you to carry and use an Item you could not otherwise carry and/or use. So it can give you a second piece of Headgear, to allow you to use an Item that is not usable by your Class and so on. Check the stickied Critical Links and Information thread for more info on what Cheat! can and cannot do.

10-31-2012, 08:18 PM	#1
drmunchkin Join Date: Oct 2012	Level up Card In the rules, and on forums, it seems the 'Go up a level' card can be played at ANY time to go up a level expect to win the game. I was wondering, if this is correct, say for example, you are level 7, you have two 'Go up a level' cards in your hand you are holding on too and you are turn up a monster, say a level 14, ask for help, a player offers help. no other players offer a way to stop the victory, could you THEN use the 2 cards, go up to level 9 and win? it seems REALLY cheap, the player helping already has all his help in and can't decide to NOT offer help at this point. thats why I ask.

10-31-2012, 08:24 PM	#2
Mister Ed Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Portland, Oregon	Re: Level up Card You can wait until after you get help for the combat to play the GUALs to get you to level 9. However you must still allow everybody the chance to try to stop you from winning. Even if everybody else has already tapped themselves out trying to stop you, your "helper", while they can't leave (without the use of one of a very few specific cards), will probably decide to take action against you, even though it means he will lose the combat along with you, if the alternative is you winning the game.

11-06-2012, 02:35 PM	#3
Areop-Enap Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Dungeon	Re: Level up Card Actually, in the rules, it says you have to play GUAL cards in the BEGINNING of your turn, unless of course you have a Cheat! card or a special power enabling using GUALs at other times.

11-06-2012, 03:11 PM	#5
Clipper Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Sydney, Australia	Re: Level up Card I think Areop-Enap might be confused by the Turn Phases section of the rules. Although it does mention playing cards and doing things before you Kick Open the Door, that doesn't mean you can't do those actions in the later phases as well, although it is possible to incorrectly infer this restriction might be in place. Later in the rules, it does clarify that GUAL cards can be played at any time as you state, DoomedDuck. Also, Areop-Enap, Cheat! can only be used with Items and it cannot be used to play cards when you would not be able to play them either. For example, you cannot play Items to the table during combat, even with Cheat!. What Cheat! does do is to allow you to carry and use an Item you could not otherwise carry and/or use. So it can give you a second piece of Headgear, to allow you to use an Item that is not usable by your Class and so on. Check the stickied Critical Links and Information thread for more info on what Cheat! can and cannot do. __________________ My unofficial, but comprehensive Flowcharts: Munchkin: A4 Letter; Munchkin Quest: A4 Letter Rules Checklist for all Munchkin sets: A4 Letter. Last edited by Clipper; 11-06-2012 at 03:16 PM.