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Old 05-19-2024, 07:57 AM   #1
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i saw the cost of ivory in low tech 3 and it seemed really low? are there any rare modifiers like the Ivory from a fantasy creature?
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Old 05-19-2024, 08:07 AM   #2
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I can't find anything about ivory in low-tech 3, but if a price doesn't fit your campaign... just change it.
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Old 05-19-2024, 08:16 AM   #3
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Bone/Horn/Shell $3.55 per pound
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Old 05-19-2024, 08:29 AM   #4
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Bone/Horn/Shell $3.55 per pound
Ivory isn't any of those, though. There's no obligation on you to use that figure.
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Old 05-19-2024, 08:31 AM   #5
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I might use that value and then just apply a +9 CF or +99 CF for 'luxury'.

Edit: Looking online, though, the current price is $1-$2 per kilogram, which is "within the ballpark".
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Old 05-19-2024, 08:37 AM   #6
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Pyramid #3/87, Low-Tech III, p. 17, has ivory at $500/lb. But it's going to vary widely; fixed prices for valuable goods in variable supply have never been a real thing.

In the late nineteenth century ivory was much cheaper, cheap enough to make piano keys and billiard balls out of. That was because hunting the relevant animals was fairly easy with rifles, and transport was cheap with steam railways and ships. Nowadays, ivory is expensive because it's mostly illegal to produce any more.
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Old 05-19-2024, 08:51 AM   #7
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Pyramid #3/87, Low-Tech III, p. 17, has ivory at $500/lb. But it's going to vary widely; fixed prices for valuable goods in variable supply have never been a real thing.

In the late nineteenth century ivory was much cheaper, cheap enough to make piano keys and billiard balls out of. That was because hunting the relevant animals was fairly easy with rifles, and transport was cheap with steam railways and ships. Nowadays, ivory is expensive because it's mostly illegal to produce any more.
Yeah but we are in a TL 3 area at the moment. the world TL is early TL 5, and it was a Cyclops ivory
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Old 05-19-2024, 09:02 AM   #8
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Hm, historically it seems to have been in the ounce or two of silver per kilogram range for most of the 19th century, so that's probably around the cost when there are no particular supply or legal complications, started shooting up about 1870, hitting 10 ounces per kg or so by 1900, gradually increasing after than until about 1970, when it shot up again, which is probably about the point supply crunch got really serious and game patrols started meaning something, reaching nearly 300 oz/kg ca 2017, but now back to more like 50, though anything after 1989 is distorted by assorted legal bans and may vary a lot with how the law gets enforced.

So something like G$5/lb when it's common, $50/lb as a luxury good and up to $500/lb on the modern black market.
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Old 05-19-2024, 09:03 AM   #9
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For what it's worth, according to Richard Francis Burton's Lake Regions of Central Africa, circa 1860 the price of ivory in Zanzibar was fifty dollars per frasilah (a frasilah being about 35 pounds). At a raw inflation calculator rate (1860 to 2004), that's around $30 a pound in 2004 dollars.
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Old 05-19-2024, 09:08 AM   #10
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Yeah but we are in a TL 3 area at the moment. the world TL is early TL 5, and it was a Cyclops ivory
What exactly do you mean by "cyclops ivory"? Is that a term of art I'm not aware of, or does it mean "ivory from a cyclops"?
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