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Old 04-13-2014, 09:13 PM   #1
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Default Illusion with physical effect

I am trying to create a character that uses Illusions to affect the real world. The idea would be that if the character creates the illusion of a sword and an enemy believes the sword is real then the sword can hurt them.

What modifier would this be? Affects substantial might work, but RAW says that is if YOU are insubstantial.

In a other vein I want to create illusions of physical objects that will last until disbelieved, touched by iron, or at the next sunrise, again using Powers, not spells.

Any ideas?
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Old 04-13-2014, 09:20 PM   #2
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Doesn't Stigmata cover what you want?
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Old 04-13-2014, 09:59 PM   #3
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You might also use Create (+Control for specific objects, rather than material) with an added limitation to represent the dispelling conditions. Stabilized Creations would thus last until reclaimed, disbelieved, or touched by iron.
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Old 04-13-2014, 10:13 PM   #4
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If you apply Affects Substantial as a modifier to the spell this could work, see Adjustable Spells, page 39 of Thuamatology, otherwise simply use the Phantom spell on page 97 of magic. When the Phantom first strikes someone there is a Quick-Contest of their IQ Vs. your skill, the Rule of 16 (B349) doesn't apply, so you should be good. I'd advise having a skill of at least 20
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Old 04-14-2014, 05:49 AM   #5
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Doesn't Stigmata cover what you want?
Not really, as it affects only one person and the illusion has to be mental.
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Old 04-14-2014, 05:51 AM   #6
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If you apply Affects Substantial as a modifier to the spell
I am trying to do this using powers, not spells so this approach would not work.
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Old 04-14-2014, 05:56 AM   #7
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You might also use Create (+Control for specific objects, rather than material)
I did not think that Create allowed for creation of things, only substances.
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Old 04-14-2014, 06:01 AM   #8
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You might also use Create (+Control for specific objects, rather than material) with an added limitation to represent the dispelling conditions. Stabilized Creations would thus last until reclaimed, disbelieved, or touched by iron.
Or Snatcher. That might end up being a little cheaper. IAFMB, but I think Powers might have some suggestions in the part on Illusions in Chapter 3.
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Old 04-14-2014, 07:05 AM   #9
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I did not think that Create allowed for creation of things, only substances.
Link it with Control and you can make substances in specific shapes.
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Old 04-14-2014, 08:40 AM   #10
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I'd go with a TK build. the physical effect is the TK, the illusion makes it look like something else.
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