The power of JUSTICE

[Colarmel]

Originally Posted by Ternas

Goodness no. There's nothing Justice enjoys better after correcting an Injustice like a deep dish pizza and a frothy root beer.

Accessibility: only while hunting?

[Ternas]

Originally Posted by Colarmel

Accessibility: only while hunting?

Then may the hunt begin!

[Kalzazz]

The Harbinger in Earthdawn was kinda focused on this topic

Unfortunately I can't offhand remember much about it and don't have my ED books handy

One thing I do remember is that Harbinger's had Cosmically hardened armor, you could hit them hard enough to damage them through their armor, but never actually lessen the armors power

[Refplace]

Originally Posted by Bruno

Mind. Blown. *boom*

Originally Posted by sir_pudding

Yeah, that's brilliant.

Originally Posted by Ghostdancer

Solid. Freaking. Gold. Rory. VERY NICE. I'm using it. I'm thinking a +100% or +300% modifier here.

ah thanks guys!

Originally Posted by Ghostdancer

I REALLY like this idea - but how to model it? A form of Common Sense?

An enhancement like Active and probably Cosmic on Common Sense or even Oracle and Racial Memory is one way to do it.
To me a simpler method is just use Law!
There are plenty of differing laws and legal systems that a wildcard is justified, even if it is only one single skill. And use Wildcard points to achieve certain things. Making it the skill for skill rolls to use powers and you get more bang for your buck.

[Christopher R. Rice]

Originally Posted by sir_pudding

A talent that applies to all Law specialties? You could probably just roll it into the power talent. Although you'd want the ability to ignore cultural familiarity penalties too, so Xena-Adaptibility (Legal Situations Only -80%) [4]?

Hmmm.

Originally Posted by Colarmel

Using transmetahuman's houserule I just found when looking for an official rule to do the same thing:

Perfect Hunter 19 points - Special Rapport (Directional Only +0%) (One Way +20%) (Transferrable: Any Sentient Being +250%)

I'd add an accessibility modifier, must have announced pursuit to the pursued, but I've no idea what that'd be worth, and it'd probably depend on the idiom of the character (e.g. a modern beat-cop might have to read a list of the charges, a western marshall might just announce, "Justice is comin'").

This - this I like.

Originally Posted by sir_pudding

Judgement Sense

16 points

You may make an IQ roll to know the local law applicable to any situation you encounter, even in completely alien cultures, as well as to know how the people involved feel that the law should apply.

Statistics: Jack of All Trades +6 (Only for Law rolls relating to an immediate situation or Psychology rolls to determine attitude towards the law -80%) [12]; Xeno-Adaptibility (Only to remove CF penalties for this ability -80%) [4]

Love it.

Originally Posted by whswhs

I'm glad you like it, but actually it's a typo! It should be "Detect; Higher Purpose." Didn't notice my fingers had missed one of the keys. . . .

It's still great idea to figure out what could drive someone.

Originally Posted by whswhs

Aspected Intuition.

One of the powers under Noumena in Powers: The Weird approximates this ability, I think.

Yeah, that looks like it does what I want.

Originally Posted by Ternas

And this is why I love Vhailor and this one single quote of his regarding Justice.

Yup. Vhailor is awesome (DON'T TRUST THE SKULL).

Originally Posted by Ternas

I'd probably take the same direction that was taken with Omnilingual from the Supers book. If you somehow know every law out there you might as well just take an "Unusual Background" that just says that you do just the same as you take a UB to know every language.

That's an interesting thought. I think Common Sense or Intuition can probably be made to create a sort of "I know things" powers. (I'm imagining Intellectus from Dresden Files, but for laws).

Originally Posted by Ternas

•Single Minded
Let's be fair, if you're tracking down someone that has committed a great injustice, you're probably not going to be taking that many side trips to 7/11 for a Slurpee.

Yup. They have it.

Originally Posted by Ternas

•Psychometry
You're not playing Minority Report here and trying to prevent a crime. You're trying to find someone that has committed an injustice and this would be the way to help figure that out. My personal preference would be for the Hypersensory limitation to keep things a bit vague.

Also this. But with full on visions of those who done did wrong.

Originally Posted by Colarmel

Possibly adding doesn't eat/drink and doesn't sleep as well.

Justice never sleeps.... I'm sold on this.

Originally Posted by Colarmel

If he's the zero collateral damage type he might have


Shortest Distance 56 points - You move straight through anything that gets between you and your target. Nothing slows you down.

Insubstantial (Accessibility: Only while moving directly toward target -40%) (Can carry objects - no encumbrance +10%)

Maybe. Hmmm.

Originally Posted by Ternas

Goodness no. There's nothing Justice enjoys better after correcting an Injustice like a deep dish pizza and a frothy root beer.

Originally Posted by Refplace

An enhancement like Active and probably Cosmic on Common Sense or even Oracle and Racial Memory is one way to do it.
To me a simpler method is just use Law!
There are plenty of differing laws and legal systems that a wildcard is justified, even if it is only one single skill. And use Wildcard points to achieve certain things. Making it the skill for skill rolls to use powers and you get more bang for your buck.

I'll consider it.

[dbm]

Originally Posted by Ghostdancer

I REALLY like this idea - but how to model it? A form of Common Sense?

Price it as a Wildcard skill?

[Ternas]

A couple of afflictions that could probably go well with a Justice powered character, especially if they're not combat based.

•The Whole Truth
Affliction 1 (Disadvantage Truthfulness (6), +10%; Based on Will, +20%; Extended Duration x10, +40%; Reduced Range x10, -30%; Increased Range 1/2D, +15%) [16]

•You're Nicked, Chum
Affliction 1 (Disadvantage Honesty (6), +20%; Touch-Based Reversed, -20%; Based on Will, +20%; Permanent (Until Sentenced), +150%) [27]

Give folks the urge to confess and turn themselves in. Though the latter only works if you can touch them and they fail their will rolls. Either way, a peaceable solution. I'd honestly be more tempted to use the rules from Pyramid 3-78 for Cursed Thou Art for basing self control rolls off of will and then just taking the Will-15 version instead of the SC roll of 6 for them.

[(E)]

An accessibility limitation "only when blind folded"

[Culture20]

A player in one of my Supers campaigns had a character who could Detect Criminals (with analyze), limited by direct line of sight. Note this isn't active crime; he could look at someone and determine their past crimes. The fun thing is their first mission was to assassinate Adolf Hitler at the opening ceremonies of the Olympics (plenty of witnesses to prevent a Hitler clone from taking over). So from that point on, the Super saw his own criminality (however justifiable, it was still against German law, and many other Earth laws at the time. Being an alien, he didn't really care beyond the visual "stain")

[Christopher R. Rice]

Originally Posted by Ternas

A couple of afflictions that could probably go well with a Justice powered character, especially if they're not combat based.

•The Whole Truth
Affliction 1 (Disadvantage Truthfulness (6), +10%; Based on Will, +20%; Extended Duration x10, +40%; Reduced Range x10, -30%; Increased Range 1/2D, +15%) [16]

•You're Nicked, Chum
Affliction 1 (Disadvantage Honesty (6), +20%; Touch-Based Reversed, -20%; Based on Will, +20%; Permanent (Until Sentenced), +150%)

Give folks the urge to confess and turn themselves in. Though the latter only works if you can touch them and they fail their will rolls. Either way, a peaceable solution. I'd honestly be more tempted to use the rules from Pyramid 3-78 for Cursed Thou Art for basing self control rolls off of will and then just taking the Will-15 version instead of the SC roll of 6 for them.

Definitely using these.

Originally Posted by (E)

An accessibility limitation "only when blind folded"

No, while thematically appropriate, doesn't suit the character.

Originally Posted by Culture20

A player in one of my Supers campaigns had a character who could Detect Criminals (with analyze), limited by direct line of sight. Note this isn't active crime; he could look at someone and determine their past crimes. The fun thing is their first mission was to assassinate Adolf Hitler at the opening ceremonies of the Olympics (plenty of witnesses to prevent a Hitler clone from taking over). So from that point on, the Super saw his own criminality (however justifiable, it was still against German law, and many other Earth laws at the time. Being an alien, he didn't really care beyond the visual "stain")

Hmmmm. Maybe. Cool story though.