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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: West Virginia
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Post-apocalyptic Swashbuckling seems like something new.
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Join Date: Jan 2014
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I mean, I was more reflecting on "Justinian's efforts in Italy destroyed the classical period" as really silly. Like, "Forget the collapse of the Western Roman Empire, the Gothic invasions, the Huns, changing cultural norms, and the Bubonic plague. It's all Justinian's Fault." That historiography is just dumb and probably has more to do with anti-Byzantinism than actually thinking things through.
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Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: New York, NY
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Could try combining General Trotsky sweeping into Europe with an extended Spanish Flu for the full apocalyptic effect. Western Europe & Scandinavia would try to hold out, some sort proto-Maginot line from Benelux through to the Alps, but would have to deal with socialists among their own populations, and general war/illness-weary population. Britain & America quitting The Continent could lead to a collapse.
And Spanish Civil War could start early, overthrow of the monarchy leading to not to a Republic but infighting (think Homage To Catalonia infighting). Portugal, Italy, Greece could also suffer - perhaps even the redoubt of Switzerland. Quote:
To take the Napoleonic Wars to apocalyptic destruction, how about throw in its own Spanish Flu a century earlier? Its spread could explain why the likes of Britain & Russia stayed out of the continental wars. Quote:
It was written in 1964 (the forward denounces Children of Men and even the movie) - even has mention of the ruins of an ancient civilization found in Mars (it also has sixties sexism & racism, as much a part of the background as the radiation). |
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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I am told that alternate history written in French has lots of alternate Napoleon stuff in the same way that alternate history written in English has lots of US Civil War stuff.
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: West Virginia
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: West Virginia
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When using a pandemic to alter history most people hit on the Spanish Flu. This isn't surprising, erasing WWII, the Nazis, the Soviets and so much of what shaped the 20th century in one fell swoop is dramatic but there was a flu pandemic in 1957-58. The Asian Flu as it was caused killed millions, but mainly in Asia.
Picture the Asian Flu killing more than two orders of magnitude more people. Eight hundred million out of a population of two billion. Let's assume that Asia is hit hardest with Africa getting mauled too. Japan, China, the Koreas, would all have taken decades to recover. Russia being Eurasian would have been severely disrupted. The Vietnam wars started well before the 1950s ( The Quiet American by Graham Greene was actually a pro French Colonial novel that argued America needed to stay out of Vietnam because they wouldn't have outlawed Buddhism) but American involvement would probably be short circuited. The whole late 1960s derailment of Breton Woods would have been less likely too. Although Japan wasn't quite as technologically innovative as some people say, Japan brought a great number of technological innovations to market and integrated technology into daily life at impressive speed. So the tech level could be identical but with far less actual use of technology in daily life. It would be a profoundly altered world even if many changes are subtle.
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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This is a world where quarantines are going to be a very big deal. International travel will be much more difficult and less common. Trade not quite as much, but also greatly less than OTL. I'd expected there will be a sort of closed city adjacent to major ports of entry where people have to stay for a designated period, or until they are cleared.
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: West Virginia
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Public Health would be more of a thing. The states might have adopted Health Care on the single payer model as a reaction.
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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* And because the health effects of lower level ionizing radiation may get less medical research since infectious and contagious diseases get more.
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Join Date: Mar 2012
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what happens next? Do the British invade in response? Does he unite south America? Does he die of Stomach Cancer? Does he simply return to France again and get executed this time? All of this can make for a different world.
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