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Old 07-11-2022, 04:49 AM   #211
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Incidentally, if you're looking to jump start 1822 science and models of atoms a container of "regular" heavy water without any radioactivity would be a useful thing.

After they satisfy themselves that there are no dissolved salts of whatever in it to make it heavy they'll be elft with the atoms of the water molecules themselves being heavier for some reason.

If you just have to do something weird to make it heavier replace the O-16 with O-18. That should make it "extra-heavy water".
That might actually retard the progress of science! As an early counter-example to Berzelius's results itmight discredit his findings, and remove an important rung from the ladder of scientific progress.
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Old 07-11-2022, 05:02 AM   #212
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And an inexplicable one in terms of 1822 science.
Indeed, but a lot of everyday observations were inexplicable to the science of 1822. Bird flight. How sailing ships can tack to windward. Respiration. Biological inheritance. Quench-hardening of steel. Very little was explicable by the science of 1822. That's why it wasn't capable of ruling many things out.
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Old 07-11-2022, 09:14 AM   #213
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That might actually retard the progress of science! As an early counter-example to Berzelius's results itmight discredit his findings, and remove an important rung from the ladder of scientific progress.
It might case many letters to be exchanged but in the end it's going to be only one exception among many supportive findings and questions should turn to _why_ this one sample is different.
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