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Old 01-29-2024, 04:31 PM   #6421
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Sigismund of Luxembourg was a poor leader. He simply couldn't keep his army working together. The French Knights totally ignored orders and rode right into an Ottoman trap. Bayezid I was able to crush Sigismund's army a little bit at a time.

This disaster not only gave the Ottoman State an aura of invincibility. Europe wouldn't coordinate its defense against the Ottomans again for generations. This makes the Battle of Nicopolis a major turning point.

If PCs could get Sigismund's armies working in a disciplined and coordinated way, Bayezid could have been beaten or at least lost the Ottoman aura of triumph.

Sigismund had nonmilitary gifts. Getting a better general to run the army while Sigismund kept working at home would go a long way towards preserving Byzantium.
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Old 02-02-2024, 06:13 PM   #6422
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Russia was between Christianity and Islam for a long time. Fairly minor changes in political alliances could have led to Islamic dominance in Russia. Politically this would probably have given Russia similar issues with modernisation that Egypt, Iran, the Ottoman State, and Morocco, all had. A weaker Russia, one that faded in power after the 17th century, would be a massive change in European history.
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Old 02-11-2024, 05:41 AM   #6423
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For an interesting alternative Napoleonic Wars why not remove the Duke of Wellington? Wellington was a highly competent general whose every virtue lay right in the area of Napoleon's weaknesses. It's almost like an RPGer min-maxed an NPC to have far fewer points than Napoleon, but could still reliably beat Napoleon. Wellington represented an amazing stoke of luck for Britain.

Britain had many other advantages including a geography that Napoleon couldn't deal with and the advantages of highly developed financial systems and trade networks the military advantages of which Napoleon, genius that he was in so many areas, never really understood. Still, without good generals, and especially without a general that could reliably beat Napoleon, it would have taken decades longer to beat the French Emperor. A Napoleonic war still being fought in the 1830s (assume Napoleon was poisoned on Saint Helena) would be an interesting game world.
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Old 02-12-2024, 06:26 PM   #6424
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For an interesting alternative Napoleonic Wars why not remove the Duke of Wellington? Wellington was a highly competent general whose every virtue lay right in the area of Napoleon's weaknesses. It's almost like an RPGer min-maxed an NPC to have far fewer points than Napoleon, but could still reliably beat Napoleon. Wellington represented an amazing stoke of luck for Britain.

Britain had many other advantages including a geography that Napoleon couldn't deal with and the advantages of highly developed financial systems and trade networks the military advantages of which Napoleon, genius that he was in so many areas, never really understood. Still, without good generals, and especially without a general that could reliably beat Napoleon, it would have taken decades longer to beat the French Emperor. A Napoleonic war still being fought in the 1830s (assume Napoleon was poisoned on Saint Helena) would be an interesting game world.
GURPS Alternate Earths has a world (Bonaparte-1) where Admiral Nelson died in 1801, and "Napoleon dictated peace from the Tower of London in 1806." But the empire fell apart 1848-1850 (unlike the still-existing empire of cyberpunk Bonaparte-5).

A world where Napoleonic France still dominates The Continent, but not U.K., could be interesting. It would kind of be like a century-earlier Reich-2, where Nazis dominate The Continent, but Britannia still rules the waves (and USA wants no part of any of it). The Peninsular War in Iberia would be a debilitating guerilla war (think Vietnam War).

But wouldn't Napoleon still make the foolish move to invade Russia (another WWII comparison)? Would he just be more successful, yet never fully defeat Mother Russia (like in Reich-2)?


Whatever the case, Homeline Paris wouldn't allow Infinity to destabilize this Napoleonic France. Meanwhile, Homeline Moscow would be insisting on support against the Napoleonic forces.

And if on Quantum 6 or 7 (Q6 if still at full-fledged war, Q7 if in cold peace with guerilla & proxy conflicts), Centrum would be backing a more militarized London, trying to modernize Tories (who would never have a PM Wellington), even slip Lord Wellington's strategies (stolen from Homeline military history books) to the less capable British army. I-Cops find out, and the question is: do they report this upstairs, risking it getting back to Homeline Paris and becoming a political issue? Or just go along and hope that Infinity can outfox Interworld in London (and Washington) after the war is finally over?
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Old 02-13-2024, 10:22 AM   #6425
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But wouldn't Napoleon still make the foolish move to invade Russia (another WWII comparison)? Would he just be more successful, yet never fully defeat Mother Russia (like in Reich-2)?

There are a lot of butterflies in this setup, but I would prefer a timeline with a France-dominated Europe, a British empire that rules the waves (though perhaps not the Med), and a Russia that has turned its ambitions east and south. You'd have a rough Franco-Russian border region in central Europe, smugglers all along the European coast, and a 3-way Great Game in the Ottoman territories and Central Asia.
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Old 02-13-2024, 07:48 PM   #6426
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There are a lot of butterflies in this setup, but I would prefer a timeline with a France-dominated Europe, a British empire that rules the waves (though perhaps not the Med), and a Russia that has turned its ambitions east and south. You'd have a rough Franco-Russian border region in central Europe, smugglers all along the European coast, and a 3-way Great Game in the Ottoman territories and Central Asia.
That is a great set-up, but begs the question why a more successful Napoleon wouldn't invade Russia? He did it in real life when he still had to worry about Wellington - would seemingly be even more likely to in this scenario.



What if Napoleon also dies early? Without him, whoever takes over (Napoleon II would be a child - likely some sort of regency by his top generals) might not have the overconfidence to invade Russia.

Though this is like another GURPS Alternate Earths Bonaparte, where both Napoleon & Wellington die at Waterloo, and half-Habsburg Napoleon II ascends to the throne.

A world where both of the leading generals of the era died early might seem suspicious to Infinity, possible parachronic intervention (but also seemingly not being Centrum - Interworld would like both centralizing figures).
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Old 02-13-2024, 11:02 PM   #6427
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Arnold 1: A world where Benedict Arnold took command of the Continental force invading Quebec and won the Battle of Quebec, a victory that leads to Quebec becoming a small independent nation under American "protection". Benedict Arnold himself became the second president of the United States before being assassinated by someone who objected to his attempt to create a close relationship with Britain and his generally autocratic style of leadership. Currently they are fighting a war with Britain that started in 1811. But Britain is a little more serious in this world
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Old 02-16-2024, 06:48 PM   #6428
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Try this idea. LAKE DAKOTA. Basically, a sixth Great Lake connected to Lake Superior near where Duluth Minnesota exists on Homeline.

Lake Dakota is a fairly shallow but fairly long lake stretching from what would be Minnesota on Homeline well into what would be Montana. This leads to a shorter less stressful Oregon trail. The Oregon County had a larger influx of American settlers from early on. The area Homeline calls British Columbia was dominated by Americans almost as soon as the Erie Canal is opened.

The influence of New England and the Mid-Atlantic states on the West Coast of North America is far stronger. This has led to the slave interest in Congress to push fanatically for the annexation of Mexico, Cuba, and the rest of the Caribbean Islands.

The political struggle between the USA and Great Britain over the control of the North American continent is much more intense and hostile. Those continental powers that seek to weaken Britain have stirred their oars in too.

Basically, this is a displacement of the Great Game/War of Shadows from central Asia to North America. Take the The Wild, Wild West and give West and Gordon more realistic foes, but just as deadly.
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Old 02-17-2024, 05:15 AM   #6429
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Try this idea. LAKE DAKOTA. Basically, a sixth Great Lake connected to Lake Superior near where Duluth Minnesota exists on Homeline.

Lake Dakota is a fairly shallow but fairly long lake stretching from what would be Minnesota on Homeline well into what would be Montana.
That's maybe 500 meters of elevation change, so no. Maybe you could stretch a lake from there as far as the central Dakotas without creating too many world wonder scale towering cliffs, though the current Mid-continental Rift the Great Lakes sit in actually stretches more or less south from the west end of Superor, down through central Iowa and into eastern Nebraska. Note that any of these lakes look likely to capture the headwaters of the Mississippi and Missouri rivers, the Saint Lawrence may be a *much* bigger river in this timeline.

Historically the huge Lake Superior basin iron production started 5 to 10 years before the US Civil War. If you are determined to put a lake across Minnisota, you've pretty much got it's north shore lapping on the Mesabi iron range, with a lot of settlement traffic along it. That may well kick off the boom a bit early, though the invention of the Bessamer converter in 1854 has a lot to do with the timing here too, so maybe not.
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Old 02-17-2024, 10:27 AM   #6430
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On Creepypasta-2 (Q5, Local Year 2007), lost media supposedly containing future knowledge, trapped demons, and just plain creepy content can be found all around the world, but is only talked about on fringes of the internet. Pararesearchers from Homeline has concluded that these are all faked, but even some of the oldest lost reels (dated to 1930) could only be fabricated using technology introduced to Homeline within the last decade...
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