area effect in tactical combat

Justaguy · 06-19-2013, 11:45 AM

Just a quick question, as I can't seem to find this in the rules and I'm not sure how to handle this.
Our group would like to start experimenting with tactical combat and some of the players have area effect powers. How big are the areas on the hex map?

Let's work with an example. X has an affliction with emanation and area effect 1, that's a 2-yard radius. Does this mean:
a) his ability affects the hex he is standing in and all 6 adjacent hexes, let's call this the first ring of hexes (total = 1 hex + 6 hexes in first ring = 7 hexes)
OR
b) his ability also affects the second ring of hexes (total = 1 hex + first ring 6 hexes + second ring 12 hexes = 19 hexes)

Thanks!

Stripe · 06-19-2013, 11:51 AM

The answer is A, though I'm struggling to find a page reference for you. It's for magic spells, but there is a picture on p. 239.

Tinman · 06-19-2013, 11:55 AM

Yes. the answer is A.
Just use the area as the number of hexes you count out from the target hex.
If it's where you are standing, then a 2yd would be your hex & one ring around you. If its a 4yd area then it's your hex & 3 rings around you.

Justaguy · 06-19-2013, 12:04 PM

Cheers. A it is.
B239 is a good reference!

Daigoro · 06-21-2013, 07:48 AM

An additional question-

What's the general formula for the number of hexes (the area) in a ring of radius R?

Mathulhu · 06-21-2013, 07:57 AM

stab in the dark

no = 3r^2 -5

Anaraxes · 06-21-2013, 08:37 AM

Close. It's 3r^2 -3r + 1

Daigoro · 06-23-2013, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anaraxes

Close. It's 3r^2 -3r + 1

Cheers. Now I just have to remember it when it's actually needed.

Mathulhu · 06-23-2013, 07:36 AM

What would you use it for?

Daigoro · 06-23-2013, 09:26 AM

"In an area crowded with enemy targets (i.e. 1 per hex), how many would be affected by my 8-hex radius AE attack?" mainly.

Extrapolate from there for less dense gatherings.

06-19-2013, 11:45 AM	#1
Justaguy Join Date: Jun 2011	area effect in tactical combat Just a quick question, as I can't seem to find this in the rules and I'm not sure how to handle this. Our group would like to start experimenting with tactical combat and some of the players have area effect powers. How big are the areas on the hex map? Let's work with an example. X has an affliction with emanation and area effect 1, that's a 2-yard radius. Does this mean: a) his ability affects the hex he is standing in and all 6 adjacent hexes, let's call this the first ring of hexes (total = 1 hex + 6 hexes in first ring = 7 hexes) OR b) his ability also affects the second ring of hexes (total = 1 hex + first ring 6 hexes + second ring 12 hexes = 19 hexes) Thanks!

06-19-2013, 11:51 AM	#2
Stripe Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Midwest, USA	Re: area effect in tactical combat The answer is A, though I'm struggling to find a page reference for you. It's for magic spells, but there is a picture on p. 239. __________________ . "How the heck am I supposed to justify that whatever I feel like doing at any particular moment is 'in character' if I can't say 'I'm chaotic evil!'"? —Jeff Freeman

06-19-2013, 11:55 AM	#3
Tinman Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New York City	Re: area effect in tactical combat Yes. the answer is A. Just use the area as the number of hexes you count out from the target hex. If it's where you are standing, then a 2yd would be your hex & one ring around you. If its a 4yd area then it's your hex & 3 rings around you.

06-19-2013, 12:04 PM	#4
Justaguy Join Date: Jun 2011	Re: area effect in tactical combat Cheers. A it is. B239 is a good reference!

06-21-2013, 07:48 AM	#5
Daigoro Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Meifumado	Re: area effect in tactical combat An additional question- What's the general formula for the number of hexes (the area) in a ring of radius R? __________________ Collaborative Settings: Cyberpunk: Duopoly Nation Space Opera: Behind the King's Eclipse And heaps of forum collabs, 30+ and counting!

06-21-2013, 07:57 AM	#6
Mathulhu Join Date: May 2009	Re: area effect in tactical combat stab in the dark no = 3r^2 -5 __________________ Maxwell Kensington "Snotkins" Von Smacksalot III

06-21-2013, 08:37 AM	#7
Anaraxes Join Date: Sep 2007	Re: area effect in tactical combat Close. It's 3r^2 -3r + 1

06-23-2013, 07:36 AM	#9
Mathulhu Join Date: May 2009	Re: area effect in tactical combat What would you use it for? __________________ Maxwell Kensington "Snotkins" Von Smacksalot III

06-23-2013, 09:26 AM	#10
Daigoro Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Meifumado	Re: area effect in tactical combat "In an area crowded with enemy targets (i.e. 1 per hex), how many would be affected by my 8-hex radius AE attack?" mainly. Extrapolate from there for less dense gatherings. __________________ Collaborative Settings: Cyberpunk: Duopoly Nation Space Opera: Behind the King's Eclipse And heaps of forum collabs, 30+ and counting!