What Skills could a mundane use to affect the Symphony?

[thorr-kan]

A mundane, 5 Force human has no Symphonic awareness nor ability to control Essence. But they could still be a player if skilled enough. What Skills can they use?

Ignore any Sorcery, Alchemy, Necromancy, or Enchantment Skills. Without Symphonic awareness, those are just esoteric useless Knowledge Skills.

I've got the following:
Dreaming (CPG), for lucid dreaming in the Marches.
Meditation (CPG), for spending Essence in a focused effort.
Knowledge (The War) (Core), for you know, knowledge.
Knowledge (Geomancy) (Sup1), for nebulous justification of benefits
Knowledge (Ghost Hunting/GhostLore) (LU), for ghost stuff.

[Whitelaughter]

Originally Posted by thorr-kan

A mundane, 5 Force human has no Symphonic awareness nor ability to control Essence. But they could still be a player if skilled enough. What Skills can they use?

Ignore any Sorcery, Alchemy, Necromancy, or Enchantment Skills. Without Symphonic awareness, those are just esoteric useless Knowledge Skills.

I've got the following:
Dreaming (CPG), for lucid dreaming in the Marches.
Meditation (CPG), for spending Essence in a focused effort.
Knowledge (The War) (Core), for you know, knowledge.
Knowledge (Geomancy) (Sup1), for nebulous justification of benefits
Knowledge (Ghost Hunting/GhostLore) (LU), for ghost stuff.

The hilarious one is when a mundane with Blessed and a Will of 10 resists an Impudite, draining them dry....

Necromancy is actually going to double as Knowledge(forensics) and Embalming, being a professional skill at funeral homes. Sorcerous *rituals* can be taught: even by zombis.

Note that a mundane can have Servants, including those with supernatural abilities.

But the important mundanes are just that: those with Status/6 or higher

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by thorr-kan

A mundane, 5 Force human has no Symphonic awareness nor ability to control Essence. But they could still be a player if skilled enough. What Skills can they use?

Any skill that elevates a given Word. This would most commonly be skills such as Persuasion, Presence, Artistry, Music.

[thorr-kan]

Originally Posted by Whitelaughter

The hilarious one is when a mundane with Blessed and a Will of 10 resists an Impudite, draining them dry....

Note that a mundane can have Servants, including those with supernatural abilities.

But the important mundanes are just that: those with Status/6 or higher

Blessed can be terrifying and hilarious .

A non-celestial getting a Servant requires action by a Superior.

Status is always useful.

Originally Posted by Anthony

Any skill that elevates a given Word. This would most commonly be skills such as Persuasion, Presence, Artistry, Music.

True. Mundane social skills and familiarity are priceless, up to and including Tether formation.

[Whitelaughter]

Originally Posted by thorr-kan

Blessed can be terrifying and hilarious .

Truly. In principle a Renegade Habbalite of Lust could simply repeatedly attack a Blessed with Emptiness, and send the effect spinning through the Symphony...sooner or later triggering potential Redemption in other Habbalah.

Originally Posted by thorr-kan

A non-celestial getting a Servant requires action by a Superior.

Page reference for that? It simply isn't the case anyway, ethereals and sorcerers pick them up all the time.

[thorr-kan]

Originally Posted by Whitelaughter

Page reference for that? It simply isn't the case anyway, ethereals and sorcerers pick them up all the time.

"A non-celestial can only gain a servant through the intervention of a Superior. Princes will occasionally assign an infernal spirit or an undead as a sorcerer’s servant. Soldiers (of either side) or Saints may be awarded a celestial spirit in recognition of exceptional service (and exceptional need). Some ethereals have made similar bargains. There are rumors of non-celestials developing a natural master-servant relationship – commonly involving a sorcerer and his ethereal or demonling captives – but this is generally considered impossible without celestial intervention. It is at least very rare." - Liber Servitorum, p117.

"Servants must normally be granted by a Superior." - CPG, p24.

Of course, In Nomine is full of exceptions. Will-Wars, for instance, specifically call out creating a temp servant.

ETA: As a DM, I wouldn't bat an eye at a servant, provided there's some story justification.

[Whitelaughter]

Ah, yes, tah. LS has pretty much been over ruled by later books, but it is good to know that the rule was written.

The simplest way for acquiring (voluntary) Servants would be using Alchemy to create a pair of potions granting the users the ability to start and immediately concede a Will-War; automatically creates Servant/2. Since Sorcery is an Attunement, it would take a week to manufacture though.