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Otherwise compare: The 2nd one is more expensive even though it's less useful, unless of course you are charging that 6 HP per use to whatever malign entity is acting through you. If you aren't paying the operations costs then something out there ought to be, otherwise there's bounds for abuse. Which is why I'm thinking defining either an Ally/Dependent/Enemy with finite resources could keep it in check. In the case where it's not Unconscious Only you could probably take a "Granted by Familiar" instead, except perhaps it's an untargetable familiar, sort of like an absentee Patron? Quote:
Having someone else pay the cost of your abilities, on the other hand, has precedent in that 'healing pill' thing in GURPS Powers, so that's fine. Basically if it's actually an external entity paying FP/maneuvers instead of you then it should actually be defined with stats or else what stops some 1pt innate attack from drawing on millions un inexhaustible FP for Godlike Extra Effort to nuke things around you? Quote:
Uncontrollable is even given a -10% for Insubstantial in powers because under stress you could go insubstantial in situations you didn't choose to: but that could actually be a good thing in a stressful situation since you save yourself a ready maneuver, if Uncontrollable means by passing ready maneuvers. In the case of the ability which has it, the savings aren't as obvious/large since the ready is dropped to a free action via Reflexive's built-in Reduced time. If I had "Takes Extra Time 3" on my insubstantiality and was unable to turn insubstantial in the middle of getting beaten up (keep getting stunned to Do Nothing ... can't do consecutive Readies) then Uncontrollable would be a godsend to help me escape danger. Last edited by Plane; 08-23-2021 at 02:57 PM. |
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08-24-2021, 05:24 AM | #46 | |
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If your character due to some strange and powerful delusion considers mindless furniture to literally be "friends" then I might be tempted to have you start killing your allies if they endanger your furniture friends. (Though realistically it sounds like trying to abuse the letter of the rule, and I just don't permit that at my table)
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Kromm's answer is clear & useful. PS: Ditto on what shrubbery said about your search-fu. Last edited by Tinman; 08-24-2021 at 10:18 AM. |
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08-24-2021, 04:00 PM | #48 |
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Glad I could help.
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08-25-2021, 03:20 PM | #49 |
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I guess an interesting question is whether it operates on the basis of who a character thinks are allies vs who actually are.
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08-26-2021, 04:38 AM | #50 | |
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A character who has uncontrollable psychic powers might target based on some some twisted subconscious feelings or thoughts. A character with out of control spirit powers might have the powers target based on who the spirit(s?) thinks are allies, etc. As long as the spirit's sense of allies/not allies isn't completely backwards it is probably fine.
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