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Old 10-05-2023, 03:33 PM   #1
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Default Mini Rocket Platforms : Only Light or Mini Rockets ?

I remembered something from ADQ&A 4/4 (I think) , about Mini Rocket Platforms can ONLY mount Light Rockets or Mini Rockets , and not Medium , Heavy or Super Rockets (let alone Artillery Rockets ...) .

Mini Rocket Platforms - $75 , 50lbs , holds 1 Space of Rockets - were introduced in ADQ Volume 4 , Number 3 (Page 6 , so Uncle Albert's ?) .
I had my copy ADQ 4/4 stolen in the early 1990s , so can't refer to it & never saw the original item .

Only time I recall the Mini Rocket Platform being used is the Subcompact in ADQ 4/4 (the Starhawk ? Page 39) , which mounted two linked Laser Guided/Unguided Light Rockets on the Platform .

None of the CWCs or UACFH ever alluded to this restriction again .

I wonder if it was quitely dropped , like the 'Matching Weight' Rule mentioned for Side Sponson Turrets in in ADQ 9/3 ... and never brought up again ?

Any information or feedback welcomed guys .
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Old 10-05-2023, 04:53 PM   #2
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I remembered something from ADQ&A 4/4 (I think) , about Mini Rocket Platforms can ONLY mount Light Rockets or Mini Rockets , and not Medium , Heavy or Super Rockets (let alone Artillery Rockets ...) .
I just looked up the entry in _Uncle Al's Catalog 2038_; it does state "only 1/3- or 1/2 space rockets due to structural limitations" there. It appears to have been deleted in blue-cover _Compendium_.
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Old 10-06-2023, 08:03 AM   #3
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I just looked up the entry in _Uncle Al's Catalog 2038_; it does state "only 1/3- or 1/2 space rockets due to structural limitations" there. It appears to have been deleted in blue-cover _Compendium_.

Thank you !

Someone wanted to mount an Artillery Rocket on a Light Trike ATV & we were discussing why it was probably 'A Bad Idea' ! Lol

Guess we'll Rule this as unfeasible to that Player ...
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Old 10-06-2023, 12:00 PM   #4
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They could mount it...But the story blank and blue or something with the effect of mounting 3 autocannons to a rocket platform.....You can do it...But will rip the roof after the first or 2nd shot.
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Old 10-06-2023, 03:42 PM   #5
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I'd have to look again, but: I'm not sure Rocket Platforms can use Rocket [Extra] Magazines; so having a 1-sp. rocket on a 1-sp. platform seems a tad inefficient.
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Old 10-06-2023, 06:41 PM   #6
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I'd have to look again, but: I'm not sure Rocket Platforms can use Rocket [Extra] Magazines; so having a 1-sp. rocket on a 1-sp. platform seems a tad inefficient.
Rocket Plantforms can't use Rocket Magazines & neither can Rocket EWPs .

Turrets (of course) can use them & after the UACFH Rule Change , so can Rockets in Standard EWPs .
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Old 10-08-2023, 01:55 AM   #7
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I only ever went AP mini-rockets on these anyway. Rockets are so inaccurate you need a volley. 3 chances of 1d isn't a lot, but it flattens the probability curve.

Alternatively non-AP can make a reasonably effective anti-pedestrian weapon since you only need to get close and hitting the ground is far easier than hitting the ped (+4 vs -3 or worse).

I am not sure what difference it would make structurally, there is no recoil and the inertia of swinging round a single MR at 50lb vs 2 x LR at 25lb each is the same. Just more exceptions to make complications so dropping the restriction is hardly a game breaker.
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Old 10-09-2023, 11:35 PM   #8
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I only ever went AP mini-rockets on these anyway. Rockets are so inaccurate you need a volley. 3 chances of 1d isn't a lot, but it flattens the probability curve.

Alternatively non-AP can make a reasonably effective anti-pedestrian weapon since you only need to get close and hitting the ground is far easier than hitting the ped (+4 vs -3 or worse).

I am not sure what difference it would make structurally, there is no recoil and the inertia of swinging round a single MR at 50lb vs 2 x LR at 25lb each is the same. Just more exceptions to make complications so dropping the restriction is hardly a game breaker.

Or even two linked Incendiary Light Rockets at 37.5lbs each = 75lbs Vs Medium Rocket of 50lbs ...

Some one used a SAM on a Mini Rocket Platform on one design , that was shown to me yesterday .
In General Play - and if it was the only Anti Air Weaponry you had on that Vehicle - it's probably fine .

To routinely arm Light Trike ATVs with lethal Armoured Car crippling Artillery Rockets , then no it's not ...

Combat Garage build engine lets you stick any Rocket on the Mini Platform , which muddies the waters even more unfortunately ...
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Old 10-10-2023, 04:06 PM   #9
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Some one used a SAM on a Mini Rocket Platform on one design , that was shown to me yesterday .
In General Play - and if it was the only Anti Air Weaponry you had on that Vehicle - it's probably fine ..
Mm -- not sure if that would work; SAMs being anti-air weapons, the target ought to be in the Top arc of fire, and a RP can't do that unless it's Universal.

As to "Light Trikes with Artillery Rockets": It's like the joke about the guy who drinks nitroglycerin for his stage act.

"That's a great trick!"
"Yeah -- but I can only do it *once*!"
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Old 10-11-2023, 02:18 PM   #10
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Not sure why you would put artillery rockets in a turret at all let alone a trike which has the best arc of fire of all the vehicle types, effectively a built in Sponson on each side.

The main benefit of a turret is the ability to target in any arc. Side mount them in a trike and you get the front and a side arc and can mount more than one. Link side arcs and you can volley to the front arc. In a light trike you should be able to get 2 per side and a volley of 4 (assuming you can stand the weight).

If you are tank hunting then you usually get to chose the attack vector so having a 360 degree turret isn't really a requirement.

The real issue is you are playing with CW Tanks equipment in your game. I trust you are following the artillery rules from that rules set (-2 to hit unless launch vehicle is stationary and has recoil spades set) or are you just using the equipment from UACFH.

A single Artillery tube in a field carriage is also fairly efficient.

Equally a single SAM on a rocket platform or otherwise is also hardly the last word in air defence. I haven't seen any air vehicle that can be seriously affected by a 4d weapon and the SAM still needs very short range for it to hit unless you are using lots of targeting electronics. If you are spending that much sustained fire with a MG would do you more good, which makes the Rocket Platform self limiting.

Reading a bit more closely, the Rocket Platform says single shot Rockets. I always took that to mean those items listed as single shot in the Rocket part of the weapons section. WGM, RGM and SAM specifically state they can be used with a Rocket Platform, Artillery Rockets don't so I would rule they cannot be put on the RP regardless of the size of the RP.

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