Orc question

[Pordobolito]

An Orc beats a level 12 monster with the help of a card that says something like "bla bla ... the monster description is wrong. It must be supposed as a level 1 monster." Will he get the extra level since the original monster was 12 and it was supposed to be level 1 (actual level is 12)? It does not say that the monster becomes level 1 but it must be taken as one.

Sorry if it is a silly question but i didn't get that.

[Andrew Hackard]

You're making this much harder than it really is.

If the Orc's combat strength (Level plus bonuses) is 10 or more greater than the monster's combat strength (Level plus bonuses), the Orc gets an extra level. You compare the same numbers that you compare to figure out who wins the combat. Don't try to figure out a "real" number -- use the ones you've already computed.

[bonetm]

I believe the card is "Typographical Error". And I believe the card says that it actually change the Level of the monster. So he would be, for all purposes, a Level 1 monster.

[Pordobolito]

That means even if cards like "+2 at one side" are played and the monster goes >=10 total strength then the extra level applies? The translated version we have does not say "+5 to the level of the monster" but simply "+5 to the monster" and we didn't consider the monster getting extra levels...

Edit: You are correct bonetm.

[Andrew Hackard]

You are SERIOUSLY overthinking this. It's very simple.

Let's say the munchkin side (including the Orc) has a combat strength of 32. If the monster side's combat strength is 22 or less, the Orc gets an extra level. If it's 23 or more, the Orc does not get an extra level. The actual Level, capital L, of the monster does not matter in the slightest in this case.

[bonetm]

Originally Posted by Pordobolito

The translated version we have does not say "+5 to the level of the monster" but simply "+5 to the monster" and we didn't consider the monster getting extra levels...

Besides what Andrew already said, I would also like to point that the new version of the rules also say "+5 to the monster", the Level (capital L) does not change, only it's combat strenght.

[Pordobolito]

Now i understood. Our card says "...a monster bigger than 10 level..." so we assumed that the monster should be over 10 level. If it is 8 level and it gets a +5 = 13 we didn't award the extra level to the player assuming that the monster was 8 level + bonuses.

So the point is: At the end of the battle you must have >=10 combat strength more than the monsters. Ex. Level 1 monster with combat strength of 6 (+5) level 8 Orc with a combat strength of 16 (+8 items) then Orc wins the game.
Hope i got it right now! :D

Thank you for the clarification (this goes to MunchkinMan).

[MunchkinMan]

Originally Posted by Pordobolito

So the point is: At the end of the battle you must have >=10 combat strength more than the monsters. Ex. Level 1 monster with combat strength of 6 (+5) level 8 Orc with a combat strength of 16 (+8 items) then Orc wins the game.
Hope i got it right now! :D

No: > 10, not >= 10. Andrew's example should either have a Munchkin with a combat strength of 33 or a Monster with a combat strength of 21. The Orc card says that the Orc must beat the Monster(s) by more than 10, not by 10 or more.