Help making werewolf

Nexahs · 03-26-2015, 10:52 PM

I'm trying to make the template for a werewolf's wolf form for an upcoming Monster Hunters campaign, and I'm basically using the template given in MH1 but altering it slightly. I'm having some trouble though, as the point cost they give for Alternate Form doesn't match up with how it should be per the Basic rules for it given the point total of the wolf form. Just to make sure I'm doing this right, I'll add it all up here:

In MH1, on p. 51, it lists the cost for Alternate Form (Reduced Time 4, +80%; Uncontrollable during full moon, -5%) at 140 points. But the total of the wolf form given on p. 50 is 189, meaning that Alternate Form (Reduced Time 4, + 80%) should actually be 333 points. That clearly can't be right, so what am I doing wrong? My understanding of Alternate Form (taken from p. B 84) is that a single alternate form costs the 90% difference between your racial template and the form's (in this case, 90% of 189, since that's the point value of the wolf, and humans have no natural point value - so 170) plus 15 points, plus the additional 80% from Reduced Time 4, which brings us to 333. So what am I doing wrong here?

Christopher R. Rice · 03-26-2015, 10:57 PM

You only add modifiers to the base cost of Alternate Form - not the cost for the template you turn into.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GURPS Powers p. 74

When designing Alternate Forms,
apply enhancements and limitations
to the basic 15-point cost per form but
not to the form-specific cost (that is,
90% the difference in template costs).

Flyndaran · 03-26-2015, 10:57 PM

Enhancements and Limitations only affect the base 15 points, never the 90% template cost.
Unless the MH line differs from how Basic does it.

Edit: Crabpuffs! If I had made fewer typos slowing down my post, I wouldn't have been Ninja-ed.

Christopher R. Rice · 03-26-2015, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyndaran

Enhancements and Limitations only affect the base 15 points, never the 90% template cost.
Unless the MH line differs from how Basic does it.

Edit: Crabpuffs! If I had made fewer typos slowing down my post, I wouldn't have been Ninja-ed.

Alas, I am much more ninja than thou art. ;-)

03-26-2015, 10:52 PM	#1
Nexahs Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Seattle, WA	Help making werewolf I'm trying to make the template for a werewolf's wolf form for an upcoming Monster Hunters campaign, and I'm basically using the template given in MH1 but altering it slightly. I'm having some trouble though, as the point cost they give for Alternate Form doesn't match up with how it should be per the Basic rules for it given the point total of the wolf form. Just to make sure I'm doing this right, I'll add it all up here: In MH1, on p. 51, it lists the cost for Alternate Form (Reduced Time 4, +80%; Uncontrollable during full moon, -5%) at 140 points. But the total of the wolf form given on p. 50 is 189, meaning that Alternate Form (Reduced Time 4, + 80%) should actually be 333 points. That clearly can't be right, so what am I doing wrong? My understanding of Alternate Form (taken from p. B 84) is that a single alternate form costs the 90% difference between your racial template and the form's (in this case, 90% of 189, since that's the point value of the wolf, and humans have no natural point value - so 170) plus 15 points, plus the additional 80% from Reduced Time 4, which brings us to 333. So what am I doing wrong here?

03-26-2015, 10:57 PM	#3
Flyndaran Untagged Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Forest Grove, Beaverton, Oregon	Re: Help making werewolf Enhancements and Limitations only affect the base 15 points, never the 90% template cost. Unless the MH line differs from how Basic does it. Edit: Crabpuffs! If I had made fewer typos slowing down my post, I wouldn't have been Ninja-ed. __________________ Beware, poor communication skills. No offense intended. If offended, it just means that I failed my writing skill check.