New Scenario: Gauntlet

Aleph · 10-04-2016, 10:35 AM

New Scenario: Gauntlet

You can find this new Ogre scenario at the link above. Please play it and comment - on game balance, clarity of instructions, or whatever else you think of - here in this thread.

Dave Crowell · 10-04-2016, 11:35 AM

I was a bit puzzled at first by the instruction in 2.03 to set up stacks of 6 GEVs and 6 GEV-PCs on the Ogre map. Then I read 3.3 on unstacking and it made more sense. The instruction to "follow legal stacking" could be clarified. I assume it is legal stacking for the Ogre map (1 Armor Unit or 3 squads of Infantry) not GEV map stacking.

dwalend · 10-04-2016, 12:14 PM

This looks fun. The MkIII variant looks especially challenging.

3.2 Why use the ogre ramming rules instead of overruns? Is it unsportsmanlike to use the INF as a fence?

3.3 "They must unstack on the first turn and follow legal stacking limits thereafter."

Is that the 3 INF or 1 armor tan-map limit? Or the 5 armor (15 INF) green map limit? I assume it's the latter. (Dave Crowell picked the other way.) Otherwise GEV-PCs can't work. (There's also the problematic "stacking limits are arbitrary" clause added to ODE.)

Either way considering spreading them out into inconvenient clumps as part of the setup. Maybe anywhere on xx22 hexes would do.

SOL would make a fine title if you want to save Gauntlet for something else.

HeatDeath · 10-04-2016, 06:44 PM

I'm pretty sure it's the 3-squads-or-1-armor" limit.

GEVs plus INF are called out in the rules as being a valid stack for this scenario.

wolf90 · 10-04-2016, 07:27 PM

Agreed.

There's just the sole "illegal" stack to start the game. Otherwise, it's normal Ogre rules.

D.

dwalend · 10-04-2016, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf90

There's just the sole "illegal" stack to start the game. Otherwise, it's normal Ogre rules.

I dunno. Why specify just Ogre ramming rules, instead of full tan-map rules? (Are the green map rules in _Reinforcements_? Or is it strictly needed for the 66 INF?) It at least needs clarifying, and has one nasty interaction.

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3.3 ... "Note that a GEV-PC carrying up to three infantry units is a legal stack."

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5.11.3 ... The infantry may dismount in any hex of the vehicle’s movement on any turn thereafter, but may not move “on its own” on the turn it dismounts, or mount and dismount on the same turn.
Infantry may fire normally on the turns it mounts and dismount.

With tan-map stacking, you'd better handle those GEV-PCs carefully. Be sure to dismount before the last hex of movement, and get that GEV-PC at least one hex away.

Dave Crowell · 10-05-2016, 05:04 AM

5.11.3 might be a good place to clarify whether Infantry can mount and dismount during GEV second movement has. I recall seeing a clarification somewhere that they cannot, but can't find it now. This is a scenario where it makes a difference.

10-04-2016, 10:35 AM	#1
Aleph Administrator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: The Central Network	New Scenario: Gauntlet New Scenario: Gauntlet You can find this new Ogre scenario at the link above. Please play it and comment - on game balance, clarity of instructions, or whatever else you think of - here in this thread.

10-04-2016, 11:35 AM	#2
Dave Crowell Join Date: Jun 2012	Re: New Scenario: Gauntlet I was a bit puzzled at first by the instruction in 2.03 to set up stacks of 6 GEVs and 6 GEV-PCs on the Ogre map. Then I read 3.3 on unstacking and it made more sense. The instruction to "follow legal stacking" could be clarified. I assume it is legal stacking for the Ogre map (1 Armor Unit or 3 squads of Infantry) not GEV map stacking.

10-04-2016, 12:14 PM	#3
dwalend Join Date: Oct 2005	Re: New Scenario: Gauntlet This looks fun. The MkIII variant looks especially challenging. 3.2 Why use the ogre ramming rules instead of overruns? Is it unsportsmanlike to use the INF as a fence? 3.3 "They must unstack on the first turn and follow legal stacking limits thereafter." Is that the 3 INF or 1 armor tan-map limit? Or the 5 armor (15 INF) green map limit? I assume it's the latter. (Dave Crowell picked the other way.) Otherwise GEV-PCs can't work. (There's also the problematic "stacking limits are arbitrary" clause added to ODE.) Either way considering spreading them out into inconvenient clumps as part of the setup. Maybe anywhere on xx22 hexes would do. SOL would make a fine title if you want to save Gauntlet for something else.

10-04-2016, 06:44 PM	#4
HeatDeath Join Date: May 2012	Re: New Scenario: Gauntlet I'm pretty sure it's the 3-squads-or-1-armor" limit. GEVs plus INF are called out in the rules as being a valid stack for this scenario.

10-04-2016, 07:27 PM	#5
wolf90 Join Date: Jun 2010	Re: New Scenario: Gauntlet Agreed. There's just the sole "illegal" stack to start the game. Otherwise, it's normal *Ogre* rules. D. __________________ Proud sponsor of Ogre KS $4.5k Sheet #3 - Bringing the Vatican Guard, a Tiger-striped mercenary unit, and of course pink GEVs, to a game near you! Orders may be placed here.

10-05-2016, 05:04 AM	#7
Dave Crowell Join Date: Jun 2012	Re: New Scenario: Gauntlet 5.11.3 might be a good place to clarify whether Infantry can mount and dismount during GEV second movement has. I recall seeing a clarification somewhere that they cannot, but can't find it now. This is a scenario where it makes a difference.