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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Forest Grove, Beaverton, Oregon
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Bioroids do seem very retro-science fiction compared to much of the rest of THS. But then so does impossibly advanced Martian terraforming, meat-bags in space, etc.
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Bioroids are almost certainly going to the sapient, and thus it's wrong to enslave them, AI's on the other hand aren't going to automatically be sapient and thus they are merely tools |
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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Sapience is self awareness in common language, and even LAI in THS terms are fully sapient in that way. THS defines sapience as how we would say human like intelligence as vague as that is.
Bioroids don't have to be fully sapient in THS terms anymore than life in general has to be.
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Kyïv, Ukraine
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Bioroids are relatively cheap, relatively smart/imaginative/empathic, and have bodies that tend to be relateable for the majority population. A SAI+cyberdoll would be much more expensive. They're also reasonably robust for their price. A combat-trained Submissa in a battlesuit is only slightly inferior to a full-metal RATS in terms of robustness, but saves a lot of money. You know why Clarke-1 is growing to become a monopoly in space construction whereever they work? Because they're economically superior to a cybershells/uplifts/baselines-in-space-suits workforce. |
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Lawrence, KS
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Actually I'm not convinced that this is so. It's not clear to me that LAI perform ongoing internal narratization, or that this provides them with a platform from which to make choices and direct their own existence. I think they are what Aristotle calls "slaves by nature."
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Join Date: Jul 2006
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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If you can do the job with an NAI that's definitely what you do but comparing bioroids with NAIs is definitely apples and oranges. Or possibly alibananas.
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Berkeley, CA
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Change base IQ from 8 to 9. Reduce Unfazeable to Fearlessnesss 2 Change Single-Minded to Visualization. Remove Incurious. Remove No Sense of Humor. Remove Slave Mentality. Add Honesty. Therefore, LAIs are capable of feeling fear (but less so than most humans), have normal human-level curiosity, can appreciate and possibly tell jokes, and can make decisions of their own. |
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Join Date: Jun 2013
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Bioroids heal - robots need regular maintenance, and new parts when the old wear out . Bioroids repair themselves.
Bioroids breed true - Von Neumann machines are possible, but may be a bit too risky - or be percieved to be too risky. Bioroids don't have that same problem, particularly when we consider that Von Neumann machines are much more easily modified into a new form (your human-with-funny-ears bioroids aren't going to mutate into an armored form equipped with rainbow lasers over the course of 3 generations). Bioroids are made of food - robots need some pretty serious infrastructure to process ore into metals, organics into advanced plastics, and so forth. They need rare metals (copper, gold, etc) or highly-processed carbon (carbon nanorods, diamond) for conductors, silicon for their CPU's, etc, as well as dedicated factories for producing more robots and their replacement parts. Bioroids need food - and can be designed to not need that great of food. Establishing a new colony using robots means sending down robots along with fuel, extra parts, and machinery to process local materials into more robots, fuel, and extra parts (or the machinery to process local materials into the machinery to do that). Establishing a new colony using bioroids means sending down bioroids who can eat the local flora and fauna, along with some backup supplies for emergencies (in both cases, the shuttles would be repurposed into necessary shelter). Those are the most basic reasons, but some settings will have others. Bioroids are easier to make initially (being basically heavily-modified existing organisms), sapience may not be possible (or at least not yet) with AI's, and so forth. More superscience-y or space fantasy settings might have there be something Special about living organisms - in Xenosaga, KOS-MOS is seen as something of a throwback for being a robot made entirely of synthetic parts (most instead use Realians, which are bioroids), as biologics can handle Ether (basically, magic with a superscience basis) more readily than synthetics can. |
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Ventura CA
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They don't. They have sterile and can only be constructed by nanogenesis. In Transhuman Space this is the reason why the Vacs clashed with the EU, when the EU banned bioroid manufacturing they also banned what the Vacs saw as the right to reproduce.
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