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Re: [Guns] What does accuracy represent?
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As for comparing the two guns the FN Minimi is used two handed with a bipod which increases stability. This is noted in the ST entry on the table as 11B† see p. B270 for the legend. Its rather extensive so was not repeated in High Tech to save space. As for your Remington 700 is a bolt action which is superior in ACC to most (Rupert is right about Rolling Blocks but you dont really see them around anymore and I forgot about that type, sorry) and various versions are described in High Tech p. 116. Quote:
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08-27-2020, 12:29 AM | #12 | |
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Tactical Shooting does get more complicated for those who want it, including caps on effective accuracy.
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08-27-2020, 12:43 AM | #13 | |
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I think it would be easier to measure what Acc doesn't impact in the ability to group hits closely. |
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08-27-2020, 03:05 AM | #14 | |
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If it was me, I'd likely just follow these guidelines. I've done similar with melee weapons where I know all the little things about ancient chinese weaponry or the reasons why obsidian worked as a weapon but I also know that gurps does well enough at things and the makers did a ton of work to make it work. There's a lot of room inside of Acc 5 weapons because it's quite granular. |
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08-27-2020, 03:11 AM | #15 |
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Re: [Guns] What does accuracy represent?
So basically simplicity and solidity of the mechanical action? Thanks, that makes sense. And rolling blocks would also be mechanically simple and solid? ...just looked up a video, and yeah, that's a very simple mechanism, and looks pretty solid.
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08-27-2020, 03:38 AM | #16 | |||||
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Or as I put it an an earlier topic on the same thing: A WW2 infantry rifle with acc 5 has expected MOA of maybe 3-4, but a modern 5.56 carbine with acc 4 of maybe about 1 MOA. Quote:
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A pocket pistol with no sights: 0 A small pistol with sights: 1 A large pistol: 2 A short smg: 3 A carbine or large smg: 4 Rifle: 5 For heavier weapons it seems to be more a question of velocity, but seems even more unclear and contradictory. |
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08-27-2020, 05:11 AM | #17 | |
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The M1894 doesn't have all that shiny stuff either, but it does have a long sight radius, and that gives it a certain practical advantage (that said, there's a good case for it being Acc4).
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08-27-2020, 06:21 AM | #18 |
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Re: [Guns] What does accuracy represent?
Look it's really simple.
Acc is an of set to the set range penalties used in the game. And Acc is set by the gun category. That is why Pistols have lower Acc then rifles and Cannons have higher Acc then them both. From EIDETIC MEMORY: BLASTER AND LASER DESIGN BY DAVID L. PULVER Beam (Blaster) Beamer: 3 Pistol: 5 Rifle: 10 Cannon: 15 As you can see the Acc has nothing to do with the gun itself, just with the class it falls into. |
08-27-2020, 07:32 AM | #19 | |
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The rules-based derivation of maximum possible skill for a weapon found in Tactical Shooting was the modeling version of this. It will certainly get you in the ballpark. Most times of course, the rate-limit to accuracy has nothing to do with the weapon. It's the operator. I've found many GURPS games where that's not the case, though, including a notable Black Ops game where lacking such an upper bound my wife's character could (seemingly, and with a slight exaggeration) thread a needle at well over 1,000 yards with a .45ACP.
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08-27-2020, 07:44 AM | #20 | |
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