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Re: [Social Engineering] Jamming / Misleading / Messing with / etc. enemy Empathy?
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It doesn't really fit many fictional characters unless we assume that the feel that they get for other people is, at most, a vague sense about their personality. They shouldn't be able to immediately pin-point that someone with Morph, Mimicry and high Acting skill is pretending to be someone he's not. At most, in that case, I'd give a player: "He keeps a tight rein on his emotions, that one. You get the sense that everything he does and says is carefully considered." That's quite apart from the result of the Acting skill check vs. whatever skill the PC is rolling against, assisted by Empahty, of course. It's just an intuitive sense that the other party is keeping a part of himself behind closed doors.
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12-02-2011, 12:48 PM | #12 |
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Re: [Social Engineering] Jamming / Misleading / Messing with / etc. enemy Empathy?
That's what I've always taken it to mean. There's another ability that some real people have which seems distinct, although related: the ability to get people to talk and keep talking. "Good listener" is one description of it, but some people I've met in the past few years are extremely good at it, to the point where it feels like something that would be a GURPS advantage.
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12-02-2011, 03:24 PM | #13 | |
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12-02-2011, 03:56 PM | #15 |
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Re: [Social Engineering] Jamming / Misleading / Messing with / etc. enemy Empathy?
This makes Empathy useless for any adventuring plot and disallowed in any realistic game.
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12-02-2011, 06:48 PM | #16 |
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Re: [Social Engineering] Jamming / Misleading / Messing with / etc. enemy Empathy?
Before running off and building an aura that afflicts the loss of the empathy advantage or 10 levels of a subtle obscure how about something like combining...
Perk: Special mental training [1] Acting @ IQ (Cosmic, fools Empathy, +100%) [4] And call it whatever your explanation for it suggests. I think 5 points is sufficient for being mostly immune to a single unique advantage. Then the player can buy normal acting from the default of IQ if they wish. |
12-02-2011, 07:17 PM | #17 |
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Re: [Social Engineering] Jamming / Misleading / Messing with / etc. enemy Empathy?
No such thing as a cosmic skill. But I suppose you could use Aspected Luck (only to defeat Telempathic powers.)
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12-03-2011, 04:43 AM | #18 | |
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Re: [Social Engineering] Jamming / Misleading / Messing with / etc. enemy Empathy?
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Semi-Tangent: the method actor case seems to imply that method actors have Mind Block at above-default level. Even so, Mind Block is at -2 to hide emotions. The only reason why an Empath will be better off than a Telepath or Mage is that Empathy does not require a Quick Contest. Anyway, for the character in question, not only are many subsets of thoughts more fundamental than emotions, but there are mechanism by which some of those thoughts completely override, to some extent even rewire emotions. |
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12-03-2011, 04:51 AM | #20 | |
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