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Old 01-19-2011, 10:58 PM   #1
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Default Unarmed Combat Flowchart and Cards

EDIT: Updated to reflect requested changed up to and including post #8

Okay, here's my first pass and making a flowchart and combat cards optimized for unarmed combat.

Compared to similar efforts I've seen from member of this forum, my offering is shameful.

These were done with the iWorks Pages program.

Questions and comments welcome.

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Old 01-19-2011, 11:05 PM   #2
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Just took a quick glance, but looks nice. On your flowchart, you might want to note that Judo Throw/Arm Lock can follow a parry or grapple. You are also lacking the "Break Free" option, as well as Sprawling from MA.
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Old 01-19-2011, 11:11 PM   #3
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Just took a quick glance, but looks nice. On your flowchart, you might want to note that Judo Throw/Arm Lock can follow a parry or grapple. You are also lacking the "Break Free" option, as well as Sprawling from MA.
Trachmyr:

Everything you say is true, but after spending...too much time...looking at similarities and differences in grappling techniques, if it matters, I'd make sure you can differentiate Judo Throw from other stuff.

Judo Throw is unique, I think, in that after a parry, you can do a Judo Throw WITHOUT first grappling the arm. This is resolved as an attack/defense roll, which if successful, throws AND STUNS the opponent.

Edit: The sheet may also benefit from noting that Pins are REGULAR Contests, not QCs. Can make a big difference.

An attack/defense roll is the gift that keeps on giving. It's resisted by Parry, which is always less than contest of skill. You can use options like deceptive and telegraphic and All-Out, since it's an attack.

Arm Lock first grapples the limb (with Arm Lock; generous), and only then can use engage in the Contest.

Judo Throw OFFENSIVELY instead of defensively is a QC resolved as an attack; in this case it's not really better than Arm Lock...but DEFENSIVELY, I have a whole new appreciation for Judo Throw.
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Old 01-19-2011, 11:42 PM   #4
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Typos on the Karate attacks.

I didn't know Boxing at DX+1 adds +2/die to my Karate kicks.
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Old 01-20-2011, 12:21 AM   #5
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Numerous places: "if foes has" should be "if foe has" (or "if foes have")
Last page: "Flying Tackls" = "Flying Tackle"

Awesome start Captain Joy, very handy.
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Old 01-20-2011, 12:31 AM   #6
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"Ship-Combat Maneuvers" headers?
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Old 01-20-2011, 12:41 AM   #7
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I think we need a resource thread that collects things like these.
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Old 01-20-2011, 01:35 AM   #8
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! +1/d6 to thr if you know Boxing at DX
! +2/d6 to thr if you know Boxing at DX+1
! +1 if wearing boots
Should write "if you know Karate ..." instead Boxing

Same typo for Karate punch
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Old 01-20-2011, 08:11 PM   #9
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Thanks for the feedback. I think I was able to address everybody's concerns. The same link should still work.

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Arm Lock first grapples the limb (with Arm Lock; generous)
And, to my understand at least, this Arm Lock to grapple the limb must follow either a successful two-handed Judo or Wrestling parry OR a Judo or Wrestling grapple. The Judo or Wrestling grapple need not target the arm. The followup Arm Lock does that, and at no to hit penalties. Do correct me if I'm wrong.

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Old 01-20-2011, 09:40 PM   #10
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And, to my understand at least, this Arm Lock to grapple the limb must follow either a successful two-handed Judo or Wrestling parry OR a Judo or Wrestling grapple. The Judo or Wrestling grapple need not target the arm. The followup Arm Lock does that, and at no to hit penalties. Do correct me if I'm wrong.
Hrm. Arm or Wrist Lock in Martial Arts p. 65 says you must have two hands free and make a barehanded parry. I believe Wrestling parry REQUIRES two hands, but Judo parry does not. Afterwards, "you may attempt to capture your attacker's arm.." This to me sounds like you do target the arm, but as you say, hit location penalties are not explicit.

Your initial grapple, offensively, apparently need not target the arm either. this one's more explicit, although not SUPER-duper so. Grapple the other guy, then go for Arm Lock.

I think a fairly natural house rule would be that you do, in fact, have to apply the hit location penalty of -2 for targeting the arm with the initial Arm Lock roll.

Edit: p. B376: Judo parries may be one handed (as may Boxing, Brawling, Karate, and DX). Wrestling and Sumo Wrestling both require two hands.
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