What 4e Vehicles .pdfs do people want to see?

[Figleaf23]

Originally Posted by Mgellis

It appears that the plan for 4e vehicle books is to publish them as .pdfs, each one featuring a related group of vehicles like "World War II fighters" or "Motorcycles."

Okay, here's my question...

What 4e Vehicles .pdfs do people want to see written and published as e23 e-books? What is the wish list of the Hive Mind? :)

Mark

Just give me the design system.

[Celtillos]

I'd like to see Municipal & Construction Vehicles...Fire Trucks, Ambulances, Cranes, Backhoes, Front End Loaders, Cherry Pickers, Bulldozers, and so on.

Also, Farm Vehicles and Equipment.

[Kale]

Originally Posted by Celtillos

I'd like to see Municipal & Construction Vehicles...Fire Trucks, Ambulances, Cranes, Backhoes, Front End Loaders, Cherry Pickers, Bulldozers, and so on.

It must include stats for Bobcat mini tractors/loaders. Those things are great! Also, a PC with one of those could do a lot of damage, and its small enough that it could be squeezed into many buildings (it will fit through a double door...)

[Evil Roy Slade]

Originally Posted by Kale

(it will fit through a double door...)

You sound like you know whereof you speak.

[Kale]

Originally Posted by Evil Roy Slade

You sound like you know whereof you speak.

Just check this one out (it fits through a single regular door)

http://www.bobcat.com/publicadmin/ge...8079&width=500

I could see a PC doing a lot of damage with one of these... @:-)

[panton41]

Originally Posted by DouglasCole

Langy: Check out this website http://www.members.tripod.com/collinsj/protect.htm

M1A2 SEP (2)

Against KE (ball, APFSDSDU, any solid impactor)
Turret: 940-960 Glacis:560-590
Lower front hull:580-650

Against CE (Chemical Energy; basically HEAT and explosive jets)
Turret: 1320-1620 Glacis:510-1050
Lower front hull:800-970

the values are in mm of RHA equivalent. And 1mm of RHA equivalent is about DR2.75 (at DR70 to the inch). You'll have to play with the armor divisors, levels of hardened, etc, if you want that level of detail.

So for KE impacts, the M1 on the turret is about 950mm RHA equivalent, or DR2612 (!). I'm sure you can do the rest of the math. :-)

Harder to find are the "non-critical" angles, like turret sides, but they're usually pretty thin, relatively speaking.

There's a good Twilight: 2000 website that gives armor for just about anything imaginable in T:2K's AV score which is roughly 5mm of RHA per point. The site, along with other sources, is where I'd start for creating vehicles if I did a GURPS Modern Combat game.

It also has stats for weapons, which can't really be converted, but a bet of fiddling came make some of the damage scores useful. (Armor penetration is in the same 1 Pen = 5mm RHA, which might be able to be converted.)

[panton41]

I think I'd like something on the order of:

Armored Ground Vehicles - Both tracked and wheeled military vehicles.
Unarmored Ground Vehicles - military being left out of the title, but to be assumed.
Civilian Ground Vehicles - Everything from a bicycle to a strip coal mining dump truck (not really the last part, but just an idea of the scope).

Military Aircraft - Maybe broken up into helicopters and fixed-wing as separate releases.
Civilian Aircraft - Similar to the ground version, except from an ultra-light to an A380.

Military Watercraft - Maybe limit the scope so that the same title doesn't have a Zodiac craft an a Nimitz-class carrier in the same book (or maybe so).
Civilian Watercraft - From a bass boat to a 250,000 ton oil tanker (or cruise ship).

And all titles in both Modern (TL 7-8 since quite a bit of military equipment in use is still TL 7), World Wars/Pulp (1900-1950), Ultra-Tech, lower TL High tech and Low Tech, all depending on relevance and demand.

[walkir]

Originally Posted by Mgellis

It appears that the plan for 4e vehicle books is to publish them as .pdfs, each one featuring a related group of vehicles like "World War II fighters" or "Motorcycles."

Okay, here's my question...

What 4e Vehicles .pdfs do people want to see written and published as e23 e-books? What is the wish list of the Hive Mind? :)

Mark

As it's you asking: civilian Traveller vehicles. Assorted air/rafts and stuff I could give my multimillionaire ISW char without resorting to Grav Carriers, speeders or air/rafts.
Contragrav expedition / camping vehicles with TL lenses.

OTOH, I wouln't complain if you send this to JTAS instead. ;)

[sir_pudding]

Originally Posted by Figleaf23

Just give me the design system.

Again, there is no secret design system. I'm sure Mark intends to do this with good solid research alone (as all existing 4e vehicle stats have been thus far). You already have that design system.

[Langy]

sir pudding, there is a design system. It's called GURPS Vehicle Design System, and David Pulver is in the process of writing it (again:/).

Yes, you can make up stats for 4e vehicles without actually having a vehicle design system, but a VDS will certainly help with figuring out things like vehicle HT, Hnd/SR, DR, etc The stuff that's not completely obvious from looking at the real world statistics, in other words.