Help Modern Cars

[Hilary_155]

Hello.
I am looking for modern cars statistics. Car wars seems to have its own genre of vehicles. I am looking for real life cars and their stats: top speed, handling, etc..

I hate asking because I am positive that someone else posted this somewhere in the forums. I just can't seem to work with the search tool. Maybe we need a new search tool with multiple tags AND boolean options, priority assigning, synonym search words and so on. If I put in "modern" it would also search for "contemporary"

Anyway, if someone could point the way to the car stats, I would appreciate it.

[Anaraxes]

Originally Posted by Hilary_155

a new search tool with multiple tags AND boolean options, priority assigning, synonym search words and so on.

Try Google, and use "site:forums.sjgames.com" as your first search term. Some tips on advanced Google searching can be found here: http://support.google.com/websearch/...&answer=136861

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Hilary_155

Hello.
I am looking for modern cars statistics. Car wars seems to have its own genre of vehicles. I am looking for real life cars and their stats: top speed, handling, etc..

Search real world literature, not GURPS. And if they don't just list a max, which they might, be tolerant of somewhat ugly math; the way you determine actual the top speed of a vehicle is by looking up its torque vs rpm curve, convert it into a force vs velocity curve (requires knowing tire radius and gear box ratio), and compare it with the vehicle's drag curve (requires knowing the rolling resistance of the tires on the surface involved, the effective drag area of the vehicle, and the atmospheric density); the max speed is the point where those curves cross, or the speed at which the engine redlines, whichever comes first.

[Sam Cade]

Originally Posted by Anthony

the max speed is the point where those curves cross, or the speed at which the engine redlines, whichever comes first.

Most modern automobiles are electronically limited to a given speed for efficiency,liability,safety or government requirements and don't get anywhere near their maximum mechanical top speed.

Late model Mustangs and Camaros are both electronically limited to 155mph but both are capable of MUCH MUCH higher speeds.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Sam Cade

Most modern automobiles are electronically limited to a given speed for efficiency,liability,safety or government requirements and don't get anywhere near their maximum mechanical top speed.

That may be true for modern performance cars. Plenty of cars simply aren't capable of higher speeds, however.

Originally Posted by Sam Cade

Late model Mustangs and Camaros are both electronically limited to 155mph but both are capable of MUCH MUCH higher speeds.

I wouldn't bet on MUCH MUCH. In fact, I'd be suspicious about claims that factory versions can even reach that speed -- ignoring rolling resistance, it would take 540 horsepower for a car with Cd*A of 2 m^2 (sports car range tends to be 1.9-2.1) to even reach 155 mph at STP.

[Sam Cade]

Originally Posted by Anthony

That may be true for modern performance cars. Plenty of cars simply aren't capable of higher speeds, however.

Heck, most full size trucks are governed to keep them at safe speeds. My Duramax would shut down at 95 mph.

Originally Posted by Anthony

I wouldn't bet on MUCH MUCH. In fact, I'd be suspicious about claims that factory versions can even reach that speed -- ignoring rolling resistance, it would take 540 horsepower for a car with Cd*A of 2 m^2 (sports car range tends to be 1.9-2.1) to even reach 155 mph at STP.

MUCH MUCH faster. Dude, the big V8 in the mustang makes 650hp.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars...o-bonneville-2
...

While the Camaro ran into a wall of aero drag at 174.4 mph, the GT500 bumps up against its redline, supercharger screaming, at 184.7 mph. The late Ford GT, with sleeker bodywork but only 10 more horsepower, is good for 200 mph, so it seems logical that the Mustang has a few more miles per hour to unlock. Given longer gearing, I'll bet this thing could hit 190. Still, I'm impressed: If you had this car on the autobahn, you could pull up behind a Porsche 911 (top speed: 180 mph) and flash your headlights in the international signal for "get out of my way, slower car." That's a rapid Ford.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vQHA...eature=related

[Fred Brackin]

Originally Posted by Sam Cade

MUCH MUCH faster. Dude, the big V8 in the mustang makes 650hp.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars...o-bonneville-2
...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vQHA...eature=related

I would be very leery of trying to push a conventionally-bodied Mustang much beyond 185. Somewhere between 190 and 200 is where cars without downforce start to lift off.

[Sam Cade]

Originally Posted by Fred Brackin

Somewhere between 190 and 200 is where cars without downforce start to lift off.

I like the guys with the trunk lid spoilers and nothing on the chin.



Somewhat on topic, I've had my lightly warmed over R6 lasered at 172.


In daily drive mode:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/153/dsc04681g.jpg/

[Celti]

Collective Restraint has put together a large number of modern cars (all 2008 model year) here.

[ClayDowling]

If there are specific models you're interested in, you can get a lot of information from the manufacturer and from fan forums. Pretty much every vehicle has fan forums.

Congrats on the R6 top speed. So did you become a member of the century club, or was this at a track day?