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Old 07-13-2011, 03:04 PM   #1
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Default What firearms does the chinese intelligence use?

Hi guys

I'm preparing a TL8 cinematic Spy game and was wondering what kind of weapons the Ministry of State Security of ... China was using.

I'm sure you could always argue that an agent abroad would not be too choosy and would go ahead with whatever can be aquired.

I have just gone through HT again but not found a lot of chinese made weapons, I just found that chinese auto-shotgun and the assault rifle. Are there no pistols made in china these days? What about submachine guns?

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Old 07-13-2011, 03:22 PM   #2
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I'm preparing a TL8 cinematic Spy game and was wondering what kind of weapons the Ministry of State Security of the People of China was using.
Well, they almost certainly have used the Type 54 pistol, a copy of the Tokarev T-33 (HT99). Now, they may well be using the QSZ-92.
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Old 07-13-2011, 03:22 PM   #3
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Yes they to produce firearms.

Spies working on a foreign soil would most likely use local weapons not drawing attention to themselves.

Here are some examples. Pistols.

http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg/ch/qsz-92-e.html

http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg/ch/type-77-e.html

Rifles

http://world.guns.ru/assault/ch/type-03--qbz-03-e.html

http://world.guns.ru/assault/ch/type-95--qbz-95-e.html

SMG.

http://world.guns.ru/smg/ch/type-05-e.html

http://world.guns.ru/smg/ch/chang-feng-e.html

Then there is the list of firearms produced by Norinco.
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Old 07-13-2011, 03:57 PM   #4
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Hi guys

I'm preparing a TL8 cinematic Spy game and was wondering what kind of weapons the Ministry of State Security of ... China was using.

I'm sure you could always argue that an agent abroad would not be too choosy and would go ahead with whatever can be aquired.

I have just gone through HT again but not found a lot of chinese made weapons, I just found that chinese auto-shotgun and the assault rifle. Are there no pistols made in china these days? What about submachine guns?
There's the Type 77

http://www.marstar.ca/gf-norinco/PRC-M-77B.shtm

And the Type 79

http://world.guns.ru/smg/ch/type-79-e.html
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Old 07-13-2011, 04:09 PM   #5
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Thanks a lot guys!

I've just realized that I posted in the wrong forum... ;(

What weapons do these correspond to, stats-wise (GURPS)?
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Old 07-13-2011, 08:58 PM   #6
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I've just realized that I posted in the wrong forum... ;(

What weapons do these correspond to, stats-wise (GURPS)?
For the QCW and the QSW I used the P90/Five-seveN stats... should be a close enough match.
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Old 07-14-2011, 09:14 AM   #7
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...they might use those at home. Most intelligence agencies prefer to use other people's kit for 'black ops' - and frequently even 'grey' ones. Of course given that the Chinese sell arms to practically anyone, all they need to do is make sure the serials on the weapons can be traced to a batch sold to a third country...
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