I'm not sure GURPS' physics engine can handle this

[lexington]

Originally Posted by jeff_wilson

How do you make everything more than 10 yds away grow as well?

Area Effect plus Minimum Range!

[Walrus]

Originally Posted by jeff_wilson

It would be trivial to include -10 SM in a 1-pt or -1-pt metatrait.

This is just the same case as adding Switchable to 0-point feature. That isn't valid.

Afflictions with meta-traits should add the cost of each underlying trait separately. And afflictions with features should use appropriate feature-changing advantage (Elastic Skin for Appearance, Growth or Shrinking for SM and Alternate Form for anything more weird).

[David Johnston2]

Originally Posted by arconom

The affliction was meant to shrink everything around the character. That includes oxygen, water, dirt, lasers, bees, dreams, boobs, time shares...

Yeah. I still can't fathom it. What happens when he moves? (And yes, you shrink things with Affliction Shrinking)

[jeff_wilson]

Originally Posted by Walrus

This is just the same case as adding Switchable to 0-point feature. That isn't valid.

Powers p.143 does not agree: it uses Affliction (Alternate Form) to turn people into frogs, and the frog's racial template would be a metatrait. A Liliputian template would work just as well.

[David Johnston2]

Originally Posted by jeff_wilson

Powers p.143 does not agree: it uses Affliction (Alternate Form) to turn people into frogs, and the frog's racial template would be a metatrait. A Liliputian template would work just as well.

An idea that doesn't work if you want indiscriminate shrinking

[Walrus]

Originally Posted by jeff_wilson

Powers p.143 does not agree: it uses Affliction (Alternate Form) to turn people into frogs, and the frog's racial template would be a metatrait. A Liliputian template would work just as well.

Don't mix up meta-trait and racial template. Meta-trait isn't directly appropriate as enhancement for Affliction and must be used either as racial template or divided onto elementary traits.

Compare turning every person into humanoid lulipute or frog or just shrinking them without morphology change.

[jeff_wilson]

Originally Posted by David Johnston2

An idea that doesn't work if you want indiscriminate shrinking

Yes, that objection remains valid.

Originally Posted by Walrus

Don't mix up meta-trait and racial template. Meta-trait isn't directly appropriate as enhancement for Affliction and must be used either as racial template or divided onto elementary traits.

That's correct, but it's not the objection to which I was responding.

[sir_pudding]

Originally Posted by jeff_wilson

Powers p.143 does not agree: it uses Affliction (Alternate Form) to turn people into frogs, and the frog's racial template would be a metatrait. A Liliputian template would work just as well.

As I said, Affliction (Alternate Form) works fine.

[RyanW]

Originally Posted by jeff_wilson

Powers p.143 does not agree: it uses Affliction (Alternate Form) to turn people into frogs, and the frog's racial template would be a metatrait. A Liliputian template would work just as well.

The problem is that if you Afflicted someone with the following metatrait:

Feature: SM-10
Quirk: Catch Phrase: What the hell happened?

You turn humans into tiny humans, and elves into tiny humans, and robots into tiny humans, and buildings into tiny humans.

[jeff_wilson]

Originally Posted by RyanW

The problem is that if you Afflicted someone with the following metatrait:

Feature: SM-10
Quirk: Catch Phrase: What the hell happened?

You turn humans into tiny humans, and elves into tiny humans, and robots into tiny humans, and buildings into tiny humans.

I don't see that's necessarily the case when the metatrait does not specifically include human form, or any particular form.