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Old 01-09-2021, 03:03 PM   #1
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Default Does a Balanced weapon get +1 to Fast-Draw?

Does a Balanced weapon get +1 to Fast-Draw? It seems like "+1 to skill with any melee weapon" leaves the door wide open for it. It also seems intuitively correct. Weapon Bond also gives +1 to Fast-Draw, right?
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Old 01-09-2021, 03:26 PM   #2
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Does a Balanced weapon get +1 to Fast-Draw? It seems like "+1 to skill with any melee weapon" leaves the door wide open for it. It also seems intuitively correct. Weapon Bond also gives +1 to Fast-Draw, right?

Not by RAW in either case, but it could be a fun house rule in a DF game.
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Old 01-09-2021, 03:29 PM   #3
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Not by RAW in either case, but it could be a fun house rule in a DF game.
Agreed. I can't see how it would unbalance (heh) anything. Sounds like fun.
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Old 01-09-2021, 04:38 PM   #4
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Given that "Unbalanced" weapons add U to parry stat (LTC2p12) we should probably have a more specific name for the +1 to skill attribute Julian is referring to, like "superbalanced" perhaps?

Especially since B208 refers to ALL swords as "balanced" in avoiding the U attribute (can hit/parry in same turn)

could be cool to have a continuum for that, like instead of B/U dichotomy you have a roll to re-ready your weapon after every attack (free action like a fast draw) with failure meaning you either need to use attacks or parries to attempt to re-ready it (with a high degree of success except when grappled)

Using a parry would explain a soft cap on parries: the -4 cumulative.

Pg 13 of LTC2 actually distinguishes "balanced for melee" (avoid a -2 for balanced-only-for-throwing weapons) and "balanced for throwing" (avoid the 1-Max Reach penalty which applies to thrown weapons) where having both is "dual-purpose".

Spears appear to be the only weapons designed to be dual-purpose inherently, for others I think that's an extra cost?

Pg 16 uses term "well-balanced" which seems to relate to lower ST requirements.
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Old 01-09-2021, 05:02 PM   #5
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Default Re: Does a Balanced weapon get +1 to Fast-Draw?

Since Fast-draw was a Skill before Perks were invented, my group pretty much universally house rules it a Perk like Quick Sheath is. Any rolls involving the perk use Skill level, so in our games certainly the bonus applies.
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Old 01-10-2021, 08:39 AM   #6
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Since Fast-draw was a Skill before Perks were invented,
my group pretty much universally house rules it a Perk like Quick Sheath is. Any rolls involving the perk use Skill level, so in our games certainly the bonus applies.
QS is a perk to allow the FS skill to have an alternate use.

Putting a single point in Fast-Draw (allowing use at DX since it's Easy) is the same price as a perk.

Not sure I'm understanding what change you're proposing.
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Old 01-10-2021, 09:20 AM   #7
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He uses Sword skill, not Fast-Draw skill. If he has DX 16 and Broadsword-20 he rolls against 20, not 16.
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Old 01-10-2021, 11:19 AM   #8
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He uses Sword skill, not Fast-Draw skill. If he has DX 16 and Broadsword-20 he rolls against 20, not 16.
so perk lets you fast-draw as a -0 technique on sword? sounds like a -1 default average tech
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Old 01-10-2021, 11:26 AM   #9
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No, the perk applies to all sword skills.

So if you have Shortsword-18 and Broadsword-20 you FD shortsword at 18 and broadsword at 20.
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Old 01-10-2021, 12:00 PM   #10
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so perk lets you fast-draw as a -0 technique on sword? sounds like a -1 default average tech
It's more like a mutation of the Weapon Adaptation Perk, except one end of the adaptation is Fast-Draw skill rather than a weapon. So following the format of the examples in the perk text {PU2,p8}, the analogous format would be Sword to Fast-Draw, or Bow to Fast-Draw. Fast Draw as a stand alone skill becomes redundant.
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