10-20-2020, 12:52 PM | #71 | |
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Re: Fanaticism and Sense of Duty
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10-20-2020, 01:08 PM | #72 |
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Re: Fanaticism and Sense of Duty
There are many people, even in historically rich countries like the United States, who do not have these needs met. Sense of Duty (Innocents) or (Americans) or (Everyone You Know Personally) are all going to catch some of those people. And there plenty identifiable forms of suffering, especially in a setting like most GURPS campaigns where there is at least a reasonable possibility of violence. Remember, the character can never abandon these people. They love them.
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10-20-2020, 01:34 PM | #73 | |
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Though there is a certain degree of freedom in having the problem be too big for you to actually solve it. When your SoD is to enough people that you can't help all of them who are in trouble or suffering or hungry, you have room to choose which problems you actually get to! SoD doesn't provide or imply a particular priority system in that situation. (Of course, if you've got the right/wrong other traits, the solution to that situation might appear to be gaining enough power that you can solve the problems...)
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10-20-2020, 02:36 PM | #74 |
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Re: Fanaticism and Sense of Duty
Different philosophies have different ideas about what helping others actually means. A very freedom orient person will seek to enable you to have the tools or remove restrictions, but otherwise leave it up to you to live or die. A very authoritarian person may instead seek to keep everyone well fed in gilded cages. A number of three laws robot stories center around the idea that freedom is dangerous and often leads to suffering and the robots don't like this.
Another example would be SoD(My Child) which can be an overprotective parent who never lets their child suffer any danger or injury or one that lets them suffer non-permanent injuries in the hopes of better long term growth and learning.
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10-20-2020, 02:55 PM | #75 | |
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(You can potentially do the gilded cage treatment.)
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10-20-2020, 03:31 PM | #76 |
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Re: Fanaticism and Sense of Duty
I suppose a question might be: If someone you have a SoD for is choosing to starve to death, are you required to force food down their throat?
If the answer is yes, then SoD is much more restrictive than I've been treating it.
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10-20-2020, 03:44 PM | #77 | |
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So...you might be so obligated, but it's also possible that you wouldn't be.
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10-20-2020, 03:58 PM | #78 | |
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What they can't do is not care, or even idly watch. If they think not lending physical aid is best, they will lend aid in some other way, such as by giving advice or encouragement. And if they truly believe that doing absolutely nothing is best, they're liable to fretfully or steadfastly watch the results. I've always gotten the impression that the larger groups in sense of duty are meant to apply to the people around the character, not as a whole.
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10-20-2020, 09:00 PM | #79 | |
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On the note of SoD, I've imagined it meant "do what you can to prevent or fix things that are ruining [these people]'s lives at the scale you are capable of". SoD: One Person can mean anything from training to become a bodyguard to finding them a job to sharing your rations based on circumstances. It can even mean something easy like keeping your phone on you at all times in case they text you while you're at work. While SoD: America might involve small things like giving money to every homeless person you come across and working at food drives on the weekend to working to change the laws to make it so everyone's basic needs are met on a fundamental level to abusing your Detect: Danger (Long Range) and Warp to constantly stop people from getting hurt during your off hours. But the biggest part to me is "Don't turn away, don't ignore". If you have SoD: Everyone you personally know, you might not know that Micheal lost his job, but when he text you that information you're the friend who'll go to him and help him find a job while everyone else might just send condolences. |
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