06-25-2022, 05:14 AM | #1 |
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Are there stats for a crocodile tooth sword?
Or even a baseball bat with nails (Stranger Things, season 2 style).
I was looking for stats for something like a sawfish sword or Aztec obsidian bladed club but crocodile teeth in wood or bone. I was thinking it would be similar enough to a baseball bat with nails that I could use those numbers but I can only find a regular bat. I guess it's just a light, spiked mace, but macuaitl(?) stats would also be nice.
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06-25-2022, 05:58 AM | #2 | |
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Re: Are there stats for a crocodile tooth sword?
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For a baseball bat with nails, you can consider it having Flanges, Spikes, or End Caps (Low-Tech Companion 2, p.14): +1 cr damage, +40% cost. For a crocodile teeth sword, you can use the stats of Macuahuitl (Low-Tech, pp. 59, 65) or Macuahuilzoctli (Low-Tech, pp. 59, 69) but made of Horn/Teeths (Low-Tech, p. 71): Tooth-edged clubs are possible; these do cutting damage equal to a steel weapon, but with armor divisor (0.5). On any successful attack or successful parry against an armed attack, roll 1d; on 1-2, the edge breaks, reducing the weapon to a club that does crushing damage. Double-edged models can be reversed (a free action) to use the other side until it, too, breaks! 20%. Base cost for either is 20% of that listed for a good quality weapon; weight is unchanged. |
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06-25-2022, 06:09 AM | #3 |
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Re: Are there stats for a crocodile tooth sword?
Awesome! Thank you.
It definitely helps to have the right name for it when searching. Edit: according to this nahuatl dictionary (University of Oregon?) the blades were glued in with turtle dung... Eeugh. Reality defeats imagination.
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06-25-2022, 09:15 AM | #4 | |
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Re: Are there stats for a crocodile tooth sword?
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I've to say I'm not sure if a crocodile-teeth sword would do cutting damage in put on a baton or club. Crocodile teeth are very tough and resilient (on contrary, shark teeth are quite brittle), but they aren't sharp like shark teeth. In fact, crocodile teeth aren't sharp at all. Maybe the weapon should be considered doing sw crushing instead of sw cutting (0.5), and the crocodile teeth should be considered like Flanges, Spikes, or End Caps but with TL 0 and, on any successful attack or successful parry against an armed attack, roll 1d; on 1, the edge breaks (instead of 1-2), removing the +1 cr damage (this represents both the chipping of the teeth tips and the breaking away of the glued tooth base from the weapon). When both edges fail, the weapon become a normal club without +1 cr damage bonus. Crocodile teeth may be more functional if used to make an arrow tip or a spear tip rather than a non-metallic sword edge. Last edited by Rasna; 06-25-2022 at 09:22 AM. |
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06-25-2022, 09:28 AM | #5 |
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Re: Are there stats for a crocodile tooth sword?
If I recall correctly there was a Pacific Islander version that used shark's teeth...
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06-25-2022, 10:03 AM | #6 |
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Re: Are there stats for a crocodile tooth sword?
Crocodiles don't bite or chew. They swallow their prey whole. Their teeth are designed to latch on so that the prey can't escape while it gets dragged under water. A weapon made with embedded croc teeth would still do crushing damage.
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06-25-2022, 10:43 AM | #7 |
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06-26-2022, 01:19 AM | #8 |
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Re: Are there stats for a crocodile tooth sword?
Treating it as a spiked mace, so Sw+2 Cr.
But taking the Mac-notes into account for durability. Slight upgrade on the Mac-zoc - teeth are set into grooved blocks that are glued then bound in rawhide. Heavy, striking pommel*. Essentially Fine & Balanced mace (HT13, - 1 to break; +1 skill) that may leave snapped off teeth in wounds. Maybe have them getting stuck, as for picks, but only for any attacks that succeeded by 5 or more (or high dam rolls?); weapon HT check or it leaves some teeth in the wound. Sw+1 Cr with missing teeth. *Punch +1 Dam (Hammer-fist but Th-1). Edit: my croc sword folk may not be dextrous enough for this - maybe it's child's work. First "swords" must have been whole jaws - now that's Cheap & Improvised.
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06-26-2022, 04:15 AM | #9 | |
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Re: Are there stats for a crocodile tooth sword?
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Maybe you can consider the weapon dealing crushing damage, but with the possibility to doing also the Hook technique. Adding a blunt Hook is +$25 (Low-Tech Companion 2, p. 14). * It's possible for a mace to inflict open wounds and penetrating wound especially for a flanged mace or for a mace with long spikes, but for the sake of simplicity the damage is still considered being mostly crushing. |
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06-26-2022, 05:55 AM | #10 |
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Re: Are there stats for a crocodile tooth sword?
Definitely going with Crushing. Seems strange but that's what the teeth being used are rated as. The getting stuck thing would just be adding a touch of Horror to the gumbo: big old, dirty tooth stuck in a victim's body - but the "bites" are only on one side... That Crippling wound you took won't heal until you get that tooth out of the bone...
But, Impaling for a single tooth: would it work as a shiv? Maybe a poor qualiy small knife, Th-2 Imp, no cut option. Perhaps Th-1 (0.5) Imp.
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