10-16-2016, 08:48 PM | #41 |
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Re: Converting Twilight 2000 for use with GURPS 4e
Since he created it before High Tech, it was and is an important modern military reference. Using this conversion and Zombies allowed me to do the "Biohazard" found in the T2KV2.2 "GPS Survey". If one wants a later timeline, use T2013 or the fan ones from the Twilight 2000 forums at juhlin.com.
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10-17-2016, 11:40 AM | #42 |
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Re: Converting Twilight 2000 for use with GURPS 4e
I may have to make a serious timeline edit.
When I started the first conversion to 3eR it wasn't yet an alternate history, and I tried to incorporate changes that kept the 1997 nuke exchange that still matched real world history. Thinking hard about it, this is really a 4e conversion of my 3eR conversion. I can see that I must have given up on that when the 4e rules came out and reverted to the OG timeline in my mind if not on my pages. I don't even own a copy of Twilight 2.0, so anything that appears similar is cribbed from other sources. I was actively trying to reduce the duplication from stuff listed in High Tech, some things crept in because, as was stated, I started BEFORE HT came out. You know, I don't think things like this are ever DONE. I'm clearly going to have to make a mailing list and fire off updated copies as I respond to feedback.
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10-17-2016, 08:00 PM | #44 |
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Re: Converting Twilight 2000 for use with GURPS 4e
Tentative Timeline Edit. Mostly an outline, here's your chance to hang meat on the bones!
1989 The year the Cold War almost ended. Enough was apparently enough with the Soviet hardliners and Mikhail Gorbachev was found dead in his suite in East Berlin on October 6th. Without the intervention of the Russian leader, Chairman Erich Honecker cracked down on dissidents in East Germany in a manner reminiscent of Tiananmen Square. 1990 Under pressure from the new Soviet leadership, Hungary remilitarizes its border. 1991 To the terror of the Warsaw Pact and Soviet leadership, US weapons and doctrine work exactly as advertised in the Liberation of Kuwait. A crash program of defense modernization begins, increasing internal strife and causing violent crackdowns. NATO, distracted with their victory, does little more than complain to the UN. 1992 Nebraska Senator Bob Kerrey, considered to be more hawkish than Arkansas Governor Bill Clinton, wins the Democrat presidential nomination and narrowly defeats President George Bush in the election. The realization among American voters that perhaps the Cold War was winding up, rather than down, sends an electoral message and an atmosphere allowing increased defense spending takes hold. 1993 Despite a “no more Vietnams” message in his inaugural speech, President Kerrey approves a limited draft measure. West Germany records an unprecedented number of border crossing attempts from East German, with an attendant increase in deaths. 1994 While the crash modernization of the Soviet armed forces was bearing some fruit, it was also hollowing out the USSR economically, forcing them to crack down ever harder on their citizens and subject nations. Clearly something was coming to a head, but what and where was the question. 1995 Please turn to page 23 of your Twilight 2000 Referee's Manual.
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10-17-2016, 08:26 PM | #46 |
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Excellent question. Does it say on page 23 of the Referee's Manual?
I'd always assumed that they got into a spat about resources on their mutual border.
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10-17-2016, 08:33 PM | #47 |
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Re: Converting Twilight 2000 for use with GURPS 4e
The Ref's Manual only mentions "a period of increasing tension and escalating border incidents". One speculation I can think of is that the Chinese got nervous about the USSR's buildup. A nervous border becomes a contested border very quickly.
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10-17-2016, 08:37 PM | #48 |
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Re: Converting Twilight 2000 for use with GURPS 4e
Access to warm-water ports in the Pacific? China's been building up islands and naval bases and such.
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10-17-2016, 09:11 PM | #49 |
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Something else that comes up... and it goes in hand with the complaint that there's a lack of civilian guns in both the original and my conversion.
What IS the most popular hunting gun in Europe and what caliber is most common? Making the Win 70 in .30-06 representational probably is incorrect.
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